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Doris Collison interview

CALL NUMBER: T1249:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Thomas Dufferin Pattullo : A Daughter's Reminiscence (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1873-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The early life of Mrs. Collison's father, Thomas Dufferin Pattullo. Pattullo in Dawson City, Yukon, c. 1897-1908. Pattullo family in Prince Rupert, 1908-1916. Pattullo as a family man. Pattullo family life. Religion in the Pattullo family. Social life as a cabinet minister's family. Pressures on Pattullo's wife. Political associates of Pattullo. Relations between Pattullo and Hart. Mrs. Collison's education. More on social life in Victoria. TRACK 2: The Pattullo's social life continued. Family strains caused by a political career. Pattullo's temperament. Pattullo disappointed at not being made a Senator. Relationship between Pattullo and Mackenzie King. Pattullo was the "first flying Premier". Relationship between Pattullo and G.G. McGeer. Comments about various cabinet ministers. Relationship between Pattullo and his brother George. Pattullo a fastidious dresser. Differences between Pattullo and his brother George. Pattullo had a "fetish" about proper pronunciation. Pattullo: "not an easy speaker". Pattullo enjoyed campaigning. Description of various election nights. Details about the 1941 Liberal convention. CALL NUMBER: T1249:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Thomas Dufferin Pattullo : A Daughter's Reminiscence (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1933-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Effects of the 1930s Depression on Pattullo's policies. Pattullo an admirer of President F.D. Roosevelt. Pattullo had no hobbies. Pattullo's retirement. Pattullo asks W.A.C. Bennett to join Liberals about 1941. Pattullo admired Sir Richard McBride. Pattullo a strong family man. Pattullo only overseas once, in 1913. More on Pattullo's character. Pattullo gave complete freedom to his family. Pattullo's temper. Pattullo's firmness and punctuality. Pattullo's good relations with his personal staff. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview.]

Gordon Torey interview

CALL NUMBER: T1293:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part one) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The formation of the first Social Credit study group in British Columbia, c. 1930. The central roles of Henry Torey and William Tutte in the early history of Social Credit. Differences between the stories of Torey and Peer Paynter. The issue of direct political action. Attempt by William Aberhart to establish a separate organization in B.C. Anti-Semitism as a problem in the Social Credit ;organization. Competing Social Credit groups in the 1930s and 1940s. Torey has no knowledge of the "Perfect Circle". Torey a frequent financial contributor. Close friend of William Rose. Torey born in 1907 in Vancouver. Discusses personal background. TRACK 2: More information about Torey's personal background. Strong influence of his brother Henry. Torey disputes Martin Robin's version of the founding of Social Credit. Description of Henry Torey, William Rose, William Tutte. The Social Credit monetary theory of Major C.H. Douglas. Antithesis of Social Credit and socialism. The political and social philosophy of Social Credit. Rejection of socialism in the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1293:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part two) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1970 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Comments on Major C.H. Douglas' political philosophy. Some British Israelites in Social Credit movement. Attempts by Social Credit to influence established parties. Private enterprises a fundamental principle of Social Credit. Social Credit against monopolies. Internal organization. Small "bull sessions" of Social Credit inner circles. Social Credit technical advisors. Examples of how the patronage system worked in B.C. The study and teaching of Social Credit. TRACK 2: Make up of the early Social Credit group. The "lunatic fringe" of Social Credit: Socialists and anti-Semites. Social Credit critique of traditional economics. Henry Torey and William Rose as leaders in Social Credit thought in B.C. Discussion of the Social Credit dividend. Social Credit and the "no growth" economy.; CALL NUMBER: T1293:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part three) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1972 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The visit to British Columbia by Major C.H. Douglas. Many of the early Socreds in the newspaper business and related activities. Peer Paynter and the Social Credit organization. More on Henry Torey. The "Christian" image of the Social Credit League. Torey attended no conventions. Alberta connections. Torey took a low profile because he was in the liquor business. Did not know W.A.C. Bennett personally. Assesses Bennett as the best Premier that the province ever had. Comments on earlier B.C. governments. Recollection of 1952 election night. Comments on the bringing into cabinet of Robert Bonner and Einar Gunderson. Knows nothing about Free Enterprise Education Fund. TRACK 2: Comments on the relationship between the government and the party. Comments on the takeover of the B.C. Electric Company, 1961. Torey a friend of Eric Martin. The split in the federal Social Credit party in the 1960s. Ambivalent comments on Real Caouette. Expresses discouragement at the chances of Social Credit in the federal field. The Social Credit Research Team Bulletin of Bill Rose. Expresses belief in the inevitability of Social Credit ideas. Social Credit seen as a remedy to socialism. Critique of socialism. (End of interview)

Harold T. Allen interview : [Nicholson, 1977]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): United Church minister and C.C.F. activist : Reverend Harold Tuttle Allen PERIOD COVERED: 1909-1977 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Reverend Harold Tuttle Allen discusses his family background and birth in Montreal in 1902. Family came to Naramata in 1909. Schooling. Decision to become a United Church minister. Theological training. First position at Coalmont, B.C. Marriage and children. Pastorates at McBride, Terrace and Cumberland. Special services. Summer camps. TRACK 2: Founds first C.C.F. group in Terrace. C.C.F.; work at Cumberland. Running for office at Cumberland. Secretary of Victoria Presbytery. Move to Sardis in 1939. Wartime activities. Fernie: anti-education attitude. Haney, 1949-1953. Vancouver returned soldiers' area, 1953-1956. Field secretary in Lord's Day Alliance. Retired to Victoria and work at churches there. C.C.F. candidate in Victoria in 1966. Alcoholism as a problem in the community. Theological and social ideas.;

Harold Winch interview

The item is an audio recording of an interview with Harold Winch in 1976 about his time as a socialist in British Columbia and Canadian politics, 1933-1972.
C.C.F. draws support from all ethnic and racial groups. Strong British base to CCF support. Problems in breaking down loyalties to "old line" parties. C.C.F. clubs: early socialist institutions in B.C. Communist Party infiltration into the C.C.F. Balance between doctrinaire principles and pragmatic considerations. Contacts between B.C. party and national party. Winch's feelings about the dissolution of the Legislature in 1953. Expresses satisfaction with his political career.

Harold Winch interview : [Jenkinson, 1973]

CALL NUMBER: T0148:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life as a Socialist MLA and MP : youth PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1931 RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1973-03-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family and childhood. His father Ernest Winch as a socialist, labour leader and MLA. J.S. Woodsworth. TRACK 2: Harold Winch's schooling. Early jobs. Work as an electrician. The Depression and politics. How he became active in politics, demonstrations, unemployed organizations and the Communist Party. CALL NUMBER: T0148:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life of a Socialist MLA and MP : the depression PERIOD COVERED: 1929-1940 RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1973-03-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The Depression in B.C.: relief camps; the Socialist Party of B.C.; founder and editor of the Socialist Party paper "The Western Clarion". Provincial election 1933. First speech in the Legislature. TRACK 2: Special powers act. Efforts to secure collective bargaining, minimum wage, changes in workman's compensation, health insurance. House whip. April 1935 demonstration, joining the C.C.F. in 1935. Party problems 1936. Elected C.C.F. leader in 1938. Vancouver sit-down strike 1938. CALL NUMBER: T0148:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life as a Socialist MLA and MP : 1938 to 1970 PERIOD COVERED: 1941-1973 RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1973-03-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The C.C.F. in the 1941 General Election. The provincial coalition government transferable ballot. Provincial election of 1952. Leadership of the C.C.F. Father and son team. Accomplishments as an MLA. TRACK 2: Federal politics in the '50s. The pipeline debate. Transformation of C.C.F. into NDP. Opinions of federal politics in the '60s and '70s. The waffle. CALL NUMBER: T0148:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life of a Socialist MLA and MP : philosophy PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1973 RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1973-03-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Personal philosophy and opinions concerning riding, socialism and the socialist movement. (End of interview)

Hilda Kristiansen interview : [Ronse, 1979]

CALL NUMBER: T3842:0010 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1979 SUMMARY: TRACK 1 & 2: Hilda Kristiansen recalls the radio populist Dr. J. Lyle Telford, and the CCF in British Columbia in the 1930s.;

CALL NUMBER: T3842:0011 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1979 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Hilda Kristiansen recalls the radio populist Dr. J. Lyle Telford, and the CCF in British Columbia in the 1930s. [TRACK 2: blank.];

Leslie Eyres interview : [Reimer, 1978]

CALL NUMBER: T2887:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leslie Eyres : Coalition cabinet minister, 1946-1952 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1892-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1892 in Manitoba. Family background. Homesteaded in Manitoba in 1911. Joined cavalry at the outset of WW I. Transferred to Royal Flying Corps, 1917. Was an observer photographer. Story of being shot down and crash landing in Germany, 1918. Captured after crash. Story of prison camps and Eyres' escape and recapture. A prisoner of war at the end of WW I. TRACK 2: The end of WW I. Eyres established in tire business in Chilliwack, ca. 1920. Had business until 1952. Was an alderman in Chilliwack during 1930s Depression. Municipal relief during 1930s. How Eyres was nominated as Conservative candidate in 1937 provincial election. Financial setbacks due to being an MLA. 1937 election campaign. Anecdote about Frank Calder, MLA. Comments on Premier T.D. Pattullo. The 1941 election. Eyres' goals in politics. Eyres particularly proud of "The Regional Industrial Index". CALL NUMBER: T2887:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leslie Eyres : Coalition cabinet minister, 1946-1952 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1941-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The 1941 election. Few recollections of the formation of the Coalition, 1941. The breakup of the Coalition, 1952. The disagreement between Herbert Anscomb and Byron Johnson. Anscomb fired. Eyres and other Conservatives resign from government, January 1952. Eyres speculates that Johnson's serious auto accident contributed to the Coalition breakup. The 1952 election. Eyres defeated in Chilliwack constituency by Socred Ken Kiernan. Eyres gives glowing account of Herbert Anscomb, Conservative leader. Eyres supported Anscomb, rather than W.A.C. Bennett, in leadership contests, 1946, 1950. Eyres joins cabinet, 1946. Few memories of 1945 or 1949 elections. Eyres offered but turns down various bribes. Brief anecdote about Gordon Wismer, Attorney-General. Story about Tom Uphill, Independent MLA from Fernie, drinking in the Legislature. TRACK 2: Most cabinet ministers took ministerial papers with them. Press relations with local Chilliwack press always good. Favourable comments on Ernest and Harold Winch.

Maitland and the British Columbia Conservative Party: the struggle for political identity and survival / John Gordon Terpenning

The item is a typescript copy of a thesis by John Gordon Terpenning titled "Maitland and the British Columbia Conservative Party: the struggle for political identity and survival." xiii, 260 pages: ill., figs., tables. Thesis (M.A.), University of Victoria, 1988. Vita. Bibliography: pages 247-258.

Pattullo Bridge opening, 1937

The item is an audio recording of a live radio broadcast by CJOR Vancouver from the site of the Pattullo Bridge, New Westminster, B.C., on the occasion of its official opening, November 15, 1937. CJOR radio announcers describe the opening festivities. Speakers include: J.A. Collins of the Fraser Bridge Company; Hon. A. Wells Gray, Minister of Lands; A.S. Gentles of the Dominion Bridge Company; Hon. F.M. MacPherson, Minister of Public Works; Hon. T.D. Pattullo, Premier of British Columbia.

Peer Vernon Paynter interview

CALL NUMBER: T1175:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Paynter's early life and the origins of Social Credit in B.C. PERIOD COVERED: 1898-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1898 in Saskatchewan. Paynter's early life in Saskatchewan: association with the cooperative movement, farm life, public school education to the end of grade ten, religion in the Paynter family, worked for 9 years as a grain buyer. Moved to Vancouver, 1931. Work history in Vancouver in 1930s and 1940s, including Palm Ice Cream Co., carpentry work, Boeing Aircraft Co., CP Airlines.; President of union local at CP Airlines during part of World War II. Labour relations. TRACK 2: Paynter's first contact with the ideas of Social Credit, 1932. The first Socred study group in B.C. Bill Tutte was the leader of the study group. The operation of the study group. Social Credit League of British Columbia formed in 1934 (?). Description of the first office. Anti-Semitism within the Socred movement. The possibility of communists within the early Socred movement. The Social Credit theory: Major Douglas' analysis of the monetary system, the 'A plus B theorem', 'national dividend', 'just price discount'. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Origins of Social Credit in British Columbia : 1932-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter discusses the danger of dogmatically applying the Douglas theory of Social Credit. The philosophy of Social Credit: the oppression of monetary control. The differences between Social Credit and Technocracy. Members of the original Social Credit study group. Links between Social Credit and the British-Israel Association. Social Credit as the philosophy of "free enterprise". Differences between Social Credit and socialism. TRACK 2: Social Credit organizations: Social Credit League of B.C. and Union of Electors. Techniques of organizing Social Credit study groups. The Perfect Circle, a clandestine Social Credit organization during World War II. Perfect Circle kept Social Credit ideas alive during the war. Relations between B.C. Socreds and the Social Credit Secretariat in Li;verpool {London?]. The first Social Credit government in Alberta. Types of people in the Social Credit organization in the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia in the 1930s PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1936 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Characteristics of early Socreds. Incident when Harold Winch and others tried to convince Paynter to run for the C.C.F. in Vancouver East, 1933. Social Credit never contested municipal elections. Paynter's opinion that politicians should be "individuals" rather than members of a political party. Leading figures in Social Credit in the 1930s. The visit to B.C. in 1934 of Major C.H. Douglas, 1934. The visit of Rev. Hewlett Johnson, Dean of Canterbury, to Vancouver to speak on Social Credit, ca. 1934. Premier William Aberhart's role in B.C. Social Credit in the mid 1930s. Paynter describes Aberhart, and Aberhart's many visits to Vancouver. [TRACK 2: blank.]; CALL NUMBER: T1175:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia, 1932-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The formation of the first Social Credit study group in Vancouver, 1932. Discussions of the monetary theory of Social Credit and the "Douglas Social Credit for Canada" piece by William Tutte. Talks about Social Credit literature and the "Perfect Circle", a Socred secret society during WWII. Formation and dissolution of Social Credit groups in 1930s and 1940s. Other monetary theories discussed. Paynter asked to be Harold Winch's running mate in 1933 provincial election. Talks about other members of the Perfect Circle: description of William Tutte and Bill Rose. Social Credit League of B.C., from 1934. The provincial election of 1937 and Social Credit involvement of it. TRACK 2: More on the 1937 election. Social Credit did not run in the provincial election of 1941. Internal problems within Social Credit, 1937-1944. The Union of Electors. Organizational details about the 1930s. The formation of the Social Credit Association of Canada (B.C. Section), 1944. The founding convention, 1944. Eric Martin and Peer Paynter on the new executive. Activities of the new association. The 1945 provincial election. Paynter a candidate in Burrard. Paynter runs in the 1945 federal election. Paynter accused of being a communist, c. 1946.; CALL NUMBER: T1175:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia, 1945-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter continues discussing how he was accused by some other Socreds of being a communist, 1946. Formation of the Vancouver Area Council of Social Credit. Major Jukes as a divisive force in Social Credit, late 1940s. The split in Social Credit, 1948-49. The 1949 provincial election. Character of Major A.H. Jukes. More on the split. Name changes of the Social Credit organization. Dal Grauer of B.C. Electric makes large contributions to the Socreds in 1949 election. More on the 1948-49 split. TRACK 2: More on Major Jukes. Paynter runs in Chilliwack in 1949. Organizational work between 1949 and 1952 elections. Work of Lyle Wicks, Eric Martin and Peer Paynter. Social Credit League headquarters in Lyle Wicks' house. Paynter becomes the first paid Social Credit organizer in B.C., 1951. Organizing techniques. Organizing Social Credit groups around the province. Hospital insurance as an issue in the 1952 election. Internal organizational details. "Christian image" of Social Credit. More about organizing. Development of electoral platform for 1952 election. The weakness of the Coalition. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0006 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Preparing for power : the Social Credit in British Columbia, 1949-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1949-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The development of policy prior to the 1952 election. Individualism as part of the Social Credit philosophy. More on the Social Credit platform and Paynter's political philosophy. Comments on C.C.F. leader, Harold Winch. More on political philosophy. The role of government regulation in the economy. Comments on the takeover of B.C. Electric, 1961. The 1950 and 1951 Social Credit conventions. TRACK 2: More on the conventions. Less emphasis on monetary reform and the effects of many new members. Lack of basic Social Credit knowledge among many Socred MLAs. The 1951 Social Credit Convention in Chilliwack. Emotional plea at the convention by Lyle Wicks. Strong support for Social Credit from the Mennonites. The strong influence of Aberhart and Manning on fundamentalists in B.C. Pro-Christian and anti-socialist ideas within Social Credit. The connections between socialism and dictatorship. Paynter's assessment of the weakness of the Coalition government. The by-election in Esquimalt in 1951. Assistance to B.C. Socreds from Alberta Socreds. Advice on political strategy coming from Ernest Manning. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0007 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and Social Credit come to power in B.C.: 1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1951-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Albertans who assisted with organizational work in B.C.: Orvis Kennedy, David Ure, John Blackmore, Jack Landeryou. Paynter's salary as an organizer paid for by the Alberta Socreds. Critical executive meeting regarding the assistance of the Alberta Socreds in the 1952 election. The 1951 Social Credit convention. W.A.C. Bennett at the 1951 convention. Paynter leery of Bennett as a Socred leader. First contacts between Bennett and the Socreds. Personal animosity towards Paynter by Bennett. The role of Eric Martin in bringing Bennett into the Social Credit League. TRACK 2: More on the entry of Bennett into the Social Credit League. The attitude of the Socreds to Bennett. W.A.C. Bennett as a new Socred member. The 1952 leadership convention. Hansell selected as interim leader. The Social Credit assessment of the 1952 election. Paynter an unsuccessful candidate in Revelstoke, 1952. Social Credit preparations for the 1952 election. Paynter has no regrets about never being elected. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0008 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Provincial election of 1952 and Paynter as national organizer, 1952-57 PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter philosophical about never being elected despite several attempts. Paynter narrowly defeated in Burrard federal riding in 1953 and 1957. Significance of the transferable ballot in the 1952 election. Paynter refutes accusations that he was not doing all he could in the 1952 election. The role of Hansell in the election. Paynter's assessment of the strength of the C.C.F. in the 1952 election, namely Harold Winch. Social Credit critique of the C.C.F. Paynter's critique of socialism. Help from Alberta Premier Manning. Trouble finding candidates in the 1952 election. The quality of Social Credit candidates. The nomination of P.A. Gaglardi in Kamloops, 1952. Election night in 1952 and the period of uncertainty. TRACK 2: Bennett elected as leader by Social Credit caucus, July 1952. Paynter, Gaglardi and Irwin oppose Bennett. More on the election of Bennett. Paynter opposed to the appointment of Bonner and Gunderson to the cabinet. Paynter becomes Assistant National Organizer for Social Credit after 1952 election, until 1957. Financial situation of the federal organization. Aspects of Social Credit adopted by other parties. Paynter on federal executive until 1958. Laments the lack of knowledge of Social Credit principles by current MLAs. Brief comments on Free Enterprise Educational Fund. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0009 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leading Figures in Social Credit, 1935-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1935-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Relations between a government and a party. W.A.C. Bennett as Premier. John Perdue defeats Paynter at 1952 Socred convention. Paynter as a candidate in the 1953 federal election. Social Credit badly defeated in 1958 in federal election. Effects of the "Sommers scandal" on Social Credit. Comments on Social Credit pioneers: J. Alan Reid, Orvis Kennedy, John Blackmore, Tilly Rolston, William Aberhart, Ernest Manning. TRACK 2: Comments on more Social Credit pioneers: Ernest Manning continued, Robert Thompson, Real Caouette, Ernest Hansell, Solon Low, Thomas Irwin, W.N. Chant, Eric Martin, Lyle Wicks, Robert Bonner. Summation of 45 years of active involvement in Social Credit. (End of interview)

Percival Charles Richards : interview

The item consists of three tapes of an oral history interview with Percy C. Richards, former executive assistant to Premiers John Hart and Byron "Boss" Johnson. Richards provides character sketches of the premiers from his personal point of view. Recorded for use in the program "Portraits of the Premiers". Tape 1: Premiers Harlan C. Brewster, John Oliver, Dr. John D. MacLean, Dr. S.F. Tolmie, and T.D. Pattullo. Tape 2: Premier T.D. Pattullo. Richards was also a newsman for the Daily Colonist newspaper, assigned to the Legislative Press Gallery. Tape 3: Premier John Hart.

Percy Richards interview : [Reimer, 1977]

CALL NUMBER: T1203:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): B.C. Premiers : Brewster, Oliver, MacLean, Tolmie, Pattullo and Hart PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1960 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-03-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Percival Charles Richards discusses background: born 1904 in England; moved to Victoria, 1912; early career as a journalist in Victoria and California. Richards' experiences in Ethiopia ca. 1955-59 as the editor of that country's first free press newspaper. Richards' recollections of Premiers H.C. Brewster, John Oliver, John D. MacLean. TRACK 2: Richards' reminiscences of Premier Dr. S.F. Tolmie. Political consequences of the Depression of the 1930s. John Hart's problems as Minister of Finance in the Pattullo government. Anecdotes about John Hart and Duff Pattullo. The firing of Hart by Pattullo and the formation of the Coalition in 1941. Details about the formation of the Coalition government. Discussion of Richards' position on Hart's staff as a secretary cum executive assistant. More about the formation of the Coalition. Details about Richards' dismissal by the Bennett government. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Personal reminiscence of Premier John Hart PERIOD COVERED: 1936-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-03-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Richards discusses: his dismissal by the Bennett government; more on the formation of the Coalition, 1941; negotiations between Hart of the Liberals and Maitland of the Conservatives; the deluge of work for the new provincial government, 1941-42. Hart goes through a depressed period shortly after becoming Premier. Hart's dealings with the Eastern financial community. How Richards' came to; work for Hart in 1936. Personal reminiscences and anecdotes about John Hart. Hart's appearance. Hart's athletic abilities. TRACK 2: Hart was a perfectionist. Hart's generosity toward people around him. Hart's regular poker games at the Union Club. Hart was a voracious reader, especially about economics. Richards arranged many private dinners for Hart. Hart's personal background. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A political reminiscence, 1936-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1936-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-04-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The generosity of Premier John Hart as revealed in anecdotes. The civil service role of political secretaries. Anecdotes about protocol. Royal visits, 1951 and 1939. More on protocol. Pattullo government and the Rowell-Sirois Commission. Role of G. Neil Perry as a financial advisor. TRACK 2: Story about political relations between John Hart and W.L.M. King. Antagonism of the federal Liberals to the Coalition government. Duff Pattullo, John Hart and the 1940 federal-provincial conference. Hart cautious in his dealings with the press. Contrasts between Pattullo and Hart. The 1941 provincial election and the formation of the Coalition. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Coalition government, 1941-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1941-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-04-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the discussion of the formation of the Coalition government, November and December 1941. Problems of Coalition government. Details about compromise within the Coalition. More about the formation of the Coalition, 1941. Pattullo in the period, 1941-45. Incident in which Anscomb criticizes Doug Turnbull, Minister of Health, in the 1951 budget speech. Richards contends that this should have been the end of the Coalition. The break-up of the Coalition, January 1952. Hospital Insurance problems for the Coalition. Hart offers Anscomb the opportunity of making W.A.C. Bennett a cabinet minister, ca. 1945. TRACK 2: More on the 1951 budget speech incident. Comments on Boss Johnson as a political leader. Highways and public works used as a political tool. Ernest Carson as Minister of Public Works. The Coalition against the "patronage" system. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Anecdotes about British Columbia politics in the 1920s and 1930s PERIOD COVERED: 1933-1947 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-05-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of Premier T.D. Pattullo. Comments on Pattullo's secretary/assistant, Ben Hethey. Richards becomes John Hart's personal secretary, 1936. The press and press gallery reporters in the 1920s and 1930s. Bruce Hutchison. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview]

T. Duff Pattullo speech, 1935-09-20

SUMMARY: SIDE 1 & 2: Speech asking voters to support Liberal candidates in federal general election. Outline of B.C. government policies and achievements. Broadcast from Vancovuer Hotel over a network of B.C;. radio stations through the facilities of CKWX.;

Thomas S. Barnett interview

CALL NUMBER: T1360:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Childhood and Youth in Alberta and British Columbia : 1909-1928 PERIOD COVERED: 1909-1928 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1909 in Red Deer, Alberta. Family background. The Barnett family in Alberta. Barnett family move to Vancouver, 1918. Barnett's education. TRACK 2: Eyewitnesses description of the return of Canadian troops to Vancouver. Growing up in Genoa Bay, Vancouver Island. Politics in the Barnett family. Barnett's uncle Alfred Speakman an MP. Barnett completed high school in 1925. Mother sick in the Provincial Hospital at Marpole/Oakridge. Worked in sawmills, 1925-26. Barnett spent one year in California, 1926-27. Entered UBC, 1927. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A young man's experiences in B.C. : 1925-1942 PERIOD COVERED: 1925-1942 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Barnett as a student at UBC after 1927. The strong influence of Barnett's mother. Also influenced by his high school teacher, Arnold Webster. Met J.S. Woodsworth in 1929 and favourably impressed. Barnett considers entering the ministry, c. 1931. Barnett to the Cariboo as a lay minister, 1933. Effects of the Depression on the Cariboo. Barnett decides against the ministry. Activities of the Student Christian Movement at UBC. TRACK 2: The intellectual climate of Vancouver and UBC in the 1930s. Barnett not a member of any party in the 1930s. Barnett in the Central Interior, 1933-42. Barnett attracted to the Social Credit movement in the 1930s. Barnett a supporter but not a member of the C.C.F. in the 1930s. Friend of C.C.F. MLA John McInnis. Editor of the Wells Chronicle during the 1930s. Barnett moves to Port Alberni in 1942. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The I.W.A. in the 1940s PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1953 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Barnett's observations on B.C. politics in the 1930s. Personal impressions of T. "Duff" Pattullo. Barnett a school trustee in Wells, c. 1937-1940. The educational system in Wells in the late 1930s. More about the Liberal government of Pattullo. Moved to Port Alberni in 1942. Joined C.C.F., 1943. Joined I.W.A. and became active in the union. Also on the executive of Credit Union and consumer co-op. TRACK 2: Barnett's work history, 1942-53. Barnett's opposition to the communist control of the Port Alberni local and the B.C. region of the I.W.A. The "cell" operation of the Communist Party. Barnett instrumental in the formation of an anti-communist "counter-caucus" within the Port Alberni local. Barnett tried and acquitted within the union as a union disrupter, 1945. Barnett a candidate in the 1945 federal and provincial elections. More on the communist / non-communist struggle within the Port Alberni local. Barnett's fundamental opposition to "monolithic" communism. Critique of the Communist Party of Canada by Malcolm Bruce. The defeat of the communists in the I.W.A., 1948. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Federal politics in the 1940s and 1950s PERIOD COVERED: 1942-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Communist leaders in Port Alberni: Alfred Dewhurst, Mark Mosher, Nigel Morgan. Communists not successful in infiltrating the C.C.F. in Port Alberni. Relations between the C.C.F. and the Communist Party. Most Scandinavians were social democrats. The 1945 federal election. A.W. Neill, the former member for Comox-Alberni. More on the 1945 federal election. Did not run in 1949. The Japanese-Canadians as an issue in the 1945 election. TRACK 2: More on Japanese-Canadians. The federal election of 1953: Barnett elected for the first time. Election night, 1953. Took leave of absence from his job at Tahsis Company immediately after election. Barnett's personal financial situation, 1953. Salaries of MPs. Barnett's first trip to Ottawa, 1953. Initial impressions of Ottawa. Getting used to Ottawa. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): (untitled) PERIOD COVERED: 1953-[no date] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Living arrangements in Ottawa: The Coburg Street Caucus. Introduction to the House of Commons. Parliamentary openings described. Throne Speech debate described. Barnett's maiden address. Parliamentary decorum in the 1950s. The issue of the recognition of the People's Republic of China. The Quebec "Independents". Barnett's seat in the House of Commons. The "lobbies" of the House of Commons. Informal co-operation between the parties. The development of "question period". TRACK 2: [blank?] (End of interview.)

W.A.C. Bennett interview : [Keene, 1977]

CALL NUMBER: T1675:0049 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : Early years and Coalition politics PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses aspects of his early years in New Brunswick and Edmonton. Decision to become a politician. Party politics. Swearing-in the first Social Credit government in B.C., 1952. The basis of Social Credit theory. Comments on political labels. Anecdote about a newspaper reporting he was "plugged into God". Desire to serve in the military in the First World War. Did not believe in working long hours. Travelling to Edmonton and obtaining a job with Marshall Wells hardware firm. Methods of sales and quotas at Marshall Wells. Definition of a good salesman. Reasons for marrying Annie Elizabeth May Richards. Comments on his hardware business in Westlock, Alberta, in the late 1920s. Leaving Alberta in 1929 and coming to British Columbia. Reasons for settling in Kelowna. Buying his business in Kelowna. Comments on Joe Renaud. Prairie settlers in Kelowna. Recollections of the Depression days in the Okanagan Valley. First motion moved in the Coalition caucus was in favour of old age pensioners. TRACK 2: Federal-provincial relations. Hate and politics. Recollections of involvement as an MLA in the Coalition caucus. Reasons for crossing the floor of the House. Reasons for entering politics. Seeking the Conservative nomination in South Okanagan, 1941. Opposition to Pattullo's stand on the Rowell-Sirois report. Comments on the inadequacies of British Columbia's economy in the 1940s. Attending Conservative federal-provincial conferences. Criticisms of the Conservative party. General comments on the Coalition government and running for the leadership of the Conservative party in B.C. Running in the federal by-election in Yale, 1948. Reasons for running in the by-election. Reaction to the outcome of the by-election. Attitude towards Quebec and its place in Canada. Reasons for Quebec separatism. Loaning Quebec $100 million. Politics as the only science. Politicians and party politics. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0050 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : the 1952 election PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses the reaction to crossing the floor of the House and the 1952 election. Comments on the 1952 election. Problems in his home riding of South Okanagan during the campaign. Methods of promoting Social Credit in the 1952 election. The role of the press. The effect of the transferable ballot. The influence of Alberta Socreds on the early Social Credit movement in B.C. Accepting the leadership of the Social Credit party after the election. Views on the development of British Columbia. Account of the meeting at which he became leader of the party. Advice offered to Socred members. Asking Einar Gunderson and Robert Bonner to become ministers in his government. Meeting with his prospective cabinet in Victoria. TRACK 2: Waiting to be called upon to form a government. Meeting with Lieutenant-Governor Clarence Wallace and discussing his constitutional responsibilities. The role of Thomas Uphill. The role of Chief Justice Sloan. Being sworn in with his new cabinet. The role of Einar Gunderson. Drinking Ovaltine at the reception after being sworn in as government. Advice offered to his new cabinet. Moving to Victoria and settling in as Premier. Bennett Stores was not permitted to sell to any government department. Reasons for not drinking alcoholic beverages. Working with new ministers. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0051 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : Early years of Social Credit government in B.C. PERIOD COVERED: 1952-[no date] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses his plans after forming British Columbia's first Social Credit government, 1952. Getting rid of patronage in government. Obtaining legislative seats for Robert Bonner; and Einar Gunderson. The defeat of the government in the House in the session of 1953 over Rolston Formula. Strategy related to the government's defeat. The passing of estimates before the House was adjourned. Meeting with the Lieutenant-Governor and calling for an election. Harold Winch's great disappointment at not being called upon to form a government. Preparation for the 1953 election campaign. TRACK 2: The 1953 election campaign. Comments on campaigning and electioneering. Relationship with Bill Clancey. The art of heckling at political meetings and how to handle hecklers. The story of; Cyril Shelford and how he became a Social Credit member of the legislature. Memories of the 1953 election campaign. The results of the election. The effect of attaining a majority government. Comments on the Columbia River Treaty. The establishment of the B.C. Ferry system. Building highways. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0052 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : The development of British Columbia PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1975 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C Bennett discusses the development of British Columbia during the period he served as Premier. Federal-provincial cooperation on the development of the Roberts Bank superport. Building the BCR. Financial policies of W.A.C. Bennett's government. Anecdote about a Russian delegation visiting him in Victoria. Cancellation of the public debt. The bond-burning ceremony at Kelowna, August 1, 1959. The development of the two-river policy. Developing hydro-electric power. The Columbia River treaty. TRACK 2: The benefits of the Columbia River Treaty. The takeover of the B.C. Electric Company, 1961. Anecdote about meeting with Sir Andrew McTaggart and Dal Grauer in London. Legal problems with the takeover of the company. The genesis of the Bank of British Columbia. Comments on the banking system in Canada. Establishment of the Bank of B.C. Federal-provincial relations. The five-regions concept. Reasons for the defeat of the Social Credit government, 1972. The threat of inflation and Bennett's policy of limiting wage increases to 6.5 %. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0053 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : Aspects of a career in public life PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1975 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses banning liquor and tobacco advertising prior to the defeat of his government. Comments on the attitude of the government heading into the 1972 election campaign. Reflections on the defeat of the Social Credit government. Comments on the NDP government, 1972-1975. Comparison between Social Credit in B.C. and in Alberta. The Social Credit government in the legislature. Assuming the title "Prime Minister" of B.C. Taking a "second look" at proposed government policy. View of Richard Nixon. Relationship with the news media. The nickname "Wacky". The federal Social Credit party in Canada. Views on the monarchy. Bennett as a populist leader. Phil Gaglardi's problems. Corruption in government. TRACK 2: Personal gain from politics. Bennett as an emotional man. Politics and the Bennett family. W.A.C. Bennett's reason for pursuing a career in politics. Comments on Dal Grauer, Lord Thompson of Fleet. Tilly Rolston crossing the floor of the House, 1951. Reflection on John F. Kennedy. Views on John A. Macdonald. Opinion of Wilfred Laurier. Comments on his wife, May Bennett and his relationship with her. Advice on marriage. Opinion of Ernest Manning. Attitudes towards Ontario. Federal-provincial relations. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0054 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett : Politics and government RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses the reaction to his joining Social Credit. Views on politics. On being quoted in the press. Environmentalism. The operation of cabinet. Preparation for public meetings and speeches. Forms of relaxation. Early years in politics as a Coalition MLA. Response to criticism of opportunism. (End of interview)

W.A.C. Bennett interview : [Mitchell, 1976-1978 : part 1]

CALL NUMBER: T1675:0013 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The early years and family background of W.A.C. Bennett, 1900-1930 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976-05-12 SUMMARY: W.A.C. Bennett discusses his early years, the background of his family in New Brunswick, family relationships and early education. First interest in politics. Recollections of political figures. Apprenticeship in the hardware business. Moving to Edmonton after the First World War. Religious and business activities in Edmonton. Attitudes towards tobacco and alcohol. Meeting his future wife, Annie Elizabeth May Richards. Moving to British Columbia, 1930. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0014 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): British Columbia politics from the 1930s to the Second World War PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976-10-08 SUMMARY: W.A.C. Bennett discusses British Columbia politics during the 1930s and comments on the personalities and political styles of Premiers Simon Fraser Tolmie and T.D. Pattullo. W.A.C. Bennett recounts his first involvement in provincial politics as a Conservative. Elected in 1941 in South Okanagan. Pattullo and the Rowell-Sirois Commission. Reasons why Pattullo was "turned out" by his own party. Formation of the coalition. Social Credit and economics during the Depression in the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0015 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and Coalition politics in B.C., 1941-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1941-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976-10-08 SUMMARY: W.A.C. Bennett discusses his service as an MLA on the Post-War Rehabilitation Council. The effect of Pat Maitland's death on the Coalition government. Bennett comments on his increasing disillusionment with the Coalition government which precipitated his crossing of the floor of the House in 1951. The 1948 Yale by-election. Bennett recollects his first attempt to enter politics in 1937. The origins of the single transferable ballot. Socialism and Social Credit. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0016 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett recalls the political battles of 1952 and 1975 PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1975 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett recalls his response to the criticisms which were levelled at him after joining the Social Credit party. Attitudes towards the press. Comments on Tilly Rolston and the importance of her defection from the ranks of the Coalition government and decision to join Social Credit. The relationship between the Alberta Social Credit party and the fledgling Socred movement in B.C. Events surrounding Bennett's decision to join Social Credit. TRACK 2: Comments on the Social Credit convention of December 1951 and Bennett's decision not to run for the campaign leadership of the party. The meeting after the 1952 election at the Hotel Vancouver at which W.A.C. Bennett was chosen as leader of the Social Credit party. The 1952 election campaign. The importance of hospital insurance as an issue in the campaign. Anecdote about a campaign meeting at Golden where Bennett was confronted by Liberal hecklers led by Tom King. Religion and its importance in Social Credit election victories. Grace McCarthy, Dan Campbell and the rebuilding of the Social Credit party after the 1972 election defeat. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0017 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and Social Credit's rise to power in B.C., 1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1972 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett recalls further aspects of the 1952 election campaign. Albertan Socreds in the election campaign. Political organization in the 1952 campaign. Waiting to be called upon to form a government. The role of leadership in politics. Lieutenant-Governor Clarence Wallace and the constitutional problem posed by the outcome of the election. Bennett assembles his prospective ministers in Victoria and prepares to assume office. Meeting with Clarence Wallace. Swearing in the new government. Tom Uphill's mistake. TRACK 2: Comments on the problem within Socred ranks after forming government. Social Credit was one coalition replacing another. Government and patronage. The importance of Bennett in the Socred victory. The role of the single transferable ballot. The Socreds were a "people's government". Economic development in British Columbia since 1952: the Columbia River Treaty, the two-rivers policy, the genesis of the homeowners' grant and parity bonds. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0018 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and the consolidation of power, 1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1950-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-01-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses the decline of the Coalition government in B.C. Reform elements within the Coalition. The Esquimalt by-election of 1951. Commander A.C. Wurtele and his reluctance to ;run as an independent candidate. The Esquimalt by-election campaign. The importance of the by-election. TRACK 2: W.A.C. Bennett discusses joining the Social Credit party. The influence of Eric Martin. The financial state of British Columbia's government at the time he assumed office, August 1952. Advice given to cabinet colleagues. Problems associated with acquiring legislative seats for Robert Bonner and Einar Gunderson. Relations with the provincial civil service after forming the government. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0019 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and the Socreds' first session in the B.C. Legislature, 1953 PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1953 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-01-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses problems he encountered after forming B.C.'s first Social Credit government, August, 1952. Problems within the Social Credit party. Relations with opposition parties in the House. The appeal of Social Credit. Einar Gunderson and his role in government. Robert Sommers and the Doukhobor issue. Meeting with Premier Manning in Edmonton, December 1952. Comments on the first session of the B.C. legislature presided over by a Socred administration, 1953. TRACK 2: Choosing a Speaker of the Legislative Assembly. Coordination of House strategy with the Socred caucus. Initiation of pay-as-you-go policies for government expenditures. Harold Winch as Leader of the Opposition. The defeat of the Socred government in the House on the Rolston Formula. Preparation for defeat. Events following the defeat of the government in the House. CALL NUMBER: T1675:0020 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and the 1953 provincial election PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1953 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-01-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: W.A.C. Bennett discusses the effect of not being called upon to form a government on Harold Winch. The provincial election campaign, 1953. The effect of the transferable ballot. Relations with the federal Social Credit party. Support of Real Caouette for the leadership of the federal party. Reasons for success in the 1953 election. Preference for use of the title "Prime Minister". Effects of becoming Premier on personal life. [TRACK 2: blank.]

William Watson Anderson interview

CALL NUMBER: T1691:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): William Watson Anderson : Department of Finance, 1913-1952 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1891-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in Scotland in 1891. Family background. Father in the newspaper business in Scotland. Stories of Anderson's boyhood in Scotland. Schooling. Immigration to Canada in 1908. Stories of the trip. First impressions of Canada. Family purchased property in Victoria shortly after arrival. Anderson's first jobs as a clerk. Anecdote about prisoners from the provincial jail. Comments on Victoria and Sidney Railway. TRACK 2: Worked for B. Wilson and Co., ice dealers. Selling ice in the Rockland area. Worked for Victoria Truck and Dray. Becomes an accountant, c. 1910. Joined the Department of Finance, 1913. Comments on the patronage hirings in the civil service. Patronage worse under Liberals than Conservatives. Anderson as secretary to the Deputy Minister of Finance, W.J. Goeppel. Comments about J.V. Fisher, later Deputy Minister. CALL NUMBER: T1691:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): William Watson Anderson : Department of Finance, 1913-1952 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1913-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story about J.V. Fisher. Working conditions within the public service. Tentative steps towards a public service union. Anderson in the Canadian Armed Forces during World War I. Anderson's war work as an air mechanic and bookkeeper. Bookkeeping innovations introduced by Anderson. Anderson went to work in the Sales Tax section, 1949. Brief comments on the Bennett government. TRACK 2: Anderson a member of the Canadian Legion and Masonic Order. Anderson peripherally involved in the "Police Scandal", 1942, which involved Premier John Hart. Anderson testified before an investigating committee. Anderson's family. (End of interview)