CALL NUMBER: T4210:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : R. Earl Gerow RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-04 SUMMARY: R. Earl Gerow was an early aircraft maintenance engineer who worked for Canadian Airways and Trans-Canada Airlines. TRACK 1: He describes the early flying activities at Burns Lake and his entry into aviation business as a mechanic. Bush flying activities of Canadian Airways 1930-36. The Paddy Burke search in 1930 and other significant aviation incidents. TRACK 2: Further descriptions of early bush flying operations around Burns Lake area with references to other operators. Transfers to Trans-Canada Airlines upon its formation and gains A.M.E. licence. Describes the changes from bush operations to airline and the development of Trans-Canada Airlines from 1938 onward. Air Canada today from the operations point of view.

CALL NUMBER: T4210:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : R. Earl Gerow RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of early airline service between Vancouver and Seattle. Description of accidents and incidents at Vancouver airport. TRACK 2: Blank.

CALL NUMBER: T3222:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor discusses: his background- born in Victoria in 1911, attracted to the romance of flying after the Lindbergh flight; learned to fly from friend Hal Wilson- description of his first day of flight school; getting his private license, then his commercial; 1930- barnstorming out of Ladner, Roscoe Turner story, aerobatics; establishing his own flying school in Vancouver, but never really succeeding with that; operating a flying school in Victoria at Gordon Head; training Chinese pilots at this time- got to know the Chinese community, so he was asked to go to China to teach flying, but could not go because he was accepted by the R.C.A.F. for a navigation course; Prime Minister Bennett cut back on money for aviation, many people laid off; desire of many non-permanent R.C.A.F. men to go to China. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: China offered new opportunities for young pilots, ones that were not available in Canada -- but government in Canada would not allow pilots to go; government's cancellation of mail contracts; first air shows- Lulu Island in 1930, Trans Canada Air Pageant; worked briefly for Airland Manufacturing Company; Paddy Burke crash- he almost went on that flight; Ernest Eve- started the Ford Tri-motor operation, McGregor's father also involved in this company; became an officer in the 111 AC Squadron, R.C.A.F. non-permanent in Vancouver- involved doing tactical exercises, instrument flying, aerobatics; search-and-rescue missions; maps were very poor when he first started; many forced landings; surviving in plane crashes- needed to be tough; flying up the coast in the early '30s; fishery patrol. CALL NUMBER: T3222:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor: anecdote at McKay Lake- mechanical difficulties, tricky maneuvering; engine problems a few times- adventures connected to these experiences; getting involved in hauling fish from the north- experience with a snowstorm while bringing fish down to Kenora, competition between companies involved in this business, story about snarling huskies in a search-and-rescue; came back to the coast to open a base at Burns Lake- difficult days in the Depression; flying in dangerous weather conditions; anecdote about falling 30 feet out of a plane during a near fatal landing. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: more on story about the landing in which he and his passengers fell into the water; growth of Canadian Airways; making the transition from being a bush pilot to a commercial pilot; working for TCA after it took over Canadian Airways; he flew the Vancouver-Seattle route for TCA; moving to Winnipeg to deliver mail; became captain on the first official night airmail service on the Vancouver-Winnipeg route; trained by Americans for awhile; became supervisor of area between Winnipeg and Vancouver; outbreak of war- his role in training pilots, selecting radio range sites; then moved east, supervised various other regions during war. CALL NUMBER: T3222:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor: more on the growth of TCA- expansion of passenger flights; anecdote about flying Senator Gray Turgeon in 1935; expanding TCA service to all over the world; getting lost in Brazil right after the war; expanding to the Caribbean in 1948; after being with TCA for 15 years, he joined Canadian Pacific as director of development- first task was to negotiate agreements with foreign countries so CP could fly to these places; CP could not survive on travel to the Orient alone; going over to Pakistan to help them establish a first class airline- difficult, but interesting experience. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: more on his experiences in Pakistan and setting up an airline in this country; going back to B.C. and establishing his own company that concentrated on flying up the coast; selling his line to Northwest Industries; favourite planes he flew; impressions of CP Air, Air Canada; final thoughts about aviation history in B.C.. (End of interview)

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Earl Gerow discusses: his background- born in Saskatchewan in 1913, introduced to aviation in 1930; learned to service a plane, got a job as an apprentice at Burns Lake; logistics of the 'food drop'; Canadian Airways pulled out of Burns Lake, he lost his job; then hired on with Pacific Airways to pick up miners; education in the aviation industry; hired on to Trans Canada Airlines (Air Canada) in 1938 and stayed there until his retirement in 1977; the McAlpine expedition; description of weather, environment, living conditions of Burns Lake; seeing his first plane; never got his pilot's license; equipment used at Burns Lake; United Air Transport; numerous small airlines in the north at the time. TRACK 2: Mr. Gerow discusses: the differences in dealing with bush planes and dealing with regular airline planes; first memories of working for TCA in Winnipeg; more on logistics of Burns Lake operation, and Burns Lake itself; black flies and mosquitoes; bush schedule was tough, but more flexible than regular airline employee schedule; period when TCA carried mostly cargo and few passengers; effects of war on airline -- some pilots to the air force; beginning of TCA -- difficulties, challenges. (End of interview)