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Glenn Walters interview : [Houghton, 1977]

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glenn begins with his birth in 1902 in South Bend, Washington; his mother went down to be with relatives for the birth and returned shortly after. His parents operated a ranch and one of the two hotels in Horsefly. Glen talks of the community when the three major mines were operating; the Hydraulic Mine operated by J.B. Hobson, who was also manager of the Bullion Mine at Likely; the Orientals, who dug ditches and worked in the mines; Ward's Mine; the Miocene Mine; I.D. and E. Co. (International Dredging Co.); the effects on the community of the closure of the mines; Glen began trapping when he was very young and has trapped for over sixty years. He talks about what a trap line is, where his was in the Quesnel Lake area, how much time he spent on the trap line and what he took with him. TRACK 2: Glen continues to talk about trapping; what it was like to live on a trap line for several months, what the trapping cabins were like; a few stories of his experiences on the trapline; about traps; how he sold the fur; how trapping today compares to trapping in the 1920s and 1930s.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Trapping; supplies in trappers cabins; setting traps; stretching and tanning hides; first aid on the trap line; trapping regulations; big game hunting; guiding; began when he was about 19 years old; first time guiding hunters from California; supplies taken by hunters; hunting stones, etc. TRACK 2: Big game hunting; hunting stories; game population; decreasing and increasing numbers over the years; wolves across Quesnel Lake; changes in big game hunting; small game in the area; grouse and pheasant; dressing and preparing meat; brief description of the Williams Lake Stampede in the 1920s.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Father's ranch; the Walters's Ranch; work around the ranch; hired help; Ah Wee, the Chinese domestic and ranch hand; operations around the ranch; survey of ranches up Black Creek; mining at Eureka Creek in the early 1900s; ranches, pre-emptions along Horsefly Lake Road; ranches in Beaver Valley. TRACK 2: Ranches in Beaver Valley; cattle drives from Horsefly to Ashcroft and Williams Lake as late at the 1940s; early freighting along the Cariboo Road from Ashcroft; team and wagon; trips into Horsefly; freighting with trucks; goods brought into Horsefly; incident at home with family.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0004 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen talks about buying a small ranch in Horsefly from his mother and building up the ranch into a working operation; clearing land; seeding; irrigation; haying; Indian crews; trading with locals; winter campgrounds; battle on Cariboo Island and the reason there are no Indians in Horsefly. TRACK 2: 108 Road; original road into Horsefly before the road from 150 Mile; his father had the mail route over 108 Road; original road through Horsefly to Quesnel Lake and across to the gold fields around Barkerville and Keithley Creek.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0005 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen remembers the wild horses in the area before they died out; role of women on the ranches; fencing in the early days; Farmer's Institute; buying seed in the early days; effects of the First World War on ranching, as well as the Depression and the Second World War. TRACK 2: Differences between ranching in the early days and ranching today; early roads around Horsefly; road-building crews; horse graders; corduroying; changeover to power graders; trucks; freighting with trucks and traffic along 150 Road in the 1920s; conditions of the roads.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0006 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen's father owned and operated the Walters Hotel which was one of two hotels during the early 1900s; the bunkhouses used by miners; the Meiss Hotel; the main hotel also called the City Hotel, had a small store; description of it, saloon, dining room, livery stables, rooms, services provided; patrons; gambling; miners; Walters Hotel also called the Horsefly Hotel; rooms; livery stables; dining room, meals; Harry Walters carried gold for Hobson and was also an early forest ranger. TRACK 2: House of ill repute in Horsefly; hotel patrons; celebrations at hotels; first phone installed in Horsefly.

George Bryson Patenaude interview

CALL NUMBER: T0364:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-24 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. George Bryson Patenaude was born in St. Andrews, Quebec in 1893. He discusses mining in Horsefly, the story of Bob Borland, the early history of Williams Lake, a distillery in Williams Lake called Pinchbeck Distillery, his early life, a description of the 150 Mile House, freighting on the Cariboo Road, famous Cariboo freighters, an anecdote about stealing whisky, early commercial travelers, a detailed description of the Cariboo stagecoaches, stagecoach schedules, and keeping warm in the winter.

TRACK 2: Mr. Patenaude offers more details about stage coaches, stage coach drivers, and the techniques of driving. Then he discusses the river boats on the Fraser River between Soda Creek and Prince George, fares and schedules, Klondike gold rushers through 150 Mile House, and freighting and ox teams on the Cariboo Road.

CALL NUMBER: T0364:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-24 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Patenaude describes Ashcroft and holdups of Cariboo stagecoaches. Then he discusses Chinese people in 150 Mile House, a story of "Calamity Jane MacKenzie" of Williams Lake and her courthouse appearances, the story of the Cedar Creek gold rush of 1921, and the aftermath of the rush.

TRACK 2: Mr. Patenaude concludes his story of the Cedar Creek gold rush of 1921. He discusses the Bullion Mine, survey trips to the Peace River country in the 1930s, a discussion of the declined economy of Horsefly, the early history of Horsefly, Chinese miners in Horsefly in the 1880s, problems encountered in gold mining, and the story of Alec Meese, a hotel keeper in Horsefly.

F. Gilbert Forbes interview : [Reimer, 1976]

CALL NUMBER: T0330:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneering in the Cariboo, 1889-1913 PERIOD COVERED: 1889-1913 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Forbes discusses his background: born in 1889 at 100 Mile House; father was a rancher; moved to 122 Mile (Lac La Hache) in 1893; family ran the 122 Mile House as a ranch and a stopping house on the Cariboo road. The operation of a stopping house. School. Worked for Bank of British North America in Ashcroft, ca. 1906-08. Worked with Frank Swannell survey party, 1908. Experiences while working with Swannell in Nechako region. TRACK 2: More about surveying with Swannell. Worked on mining construction, 1909-10. Mining camp conditions. Trip to South America, 1912-13. Anecdotes about Forbes' trip in Argentina, Bermuda and the United States and his return to Lac La Hache, 1913. Anecdote about the death of "Bugs" at Lac La Hache, 1906. CALL NUMBER: T0330:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneering in the Cariboo, 1900-1950 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Worked on his father's ranch at 122 Mile House, 1913-22. Freight hauling on the Cariboo Road declines after 1919. Worked at Cedar Creek gold mine, 1922-23. Gold mining in the Cariboo region. Ranched and had a trap line during the Depression. Building with logs. Ranched during the 1940s. TRACK 2: Brief account of activities in 1950s. Early freighters on the Cariboo Road described. Anecdotes about the teamsters on the Cariboo Road. Anecdotes about gambling. Preachers. (End of interview)

Lawrence Dickinson interview

CALL NUMBER: T1038:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-17 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Lawrence Dickinson recalls his journey from Wisconsin and arrival at Francois Lake in 1910, when he was about 15 years old. He describes his journey along the Cariboo Road; stopping in Quesnel Forks to help mine for the winter; the route he had to take to Francois Lake; filing preemptions upon arriving in Francois Lake; joining a survey crew for Swannell company; life as a surveyor ;in the Fort Fraser, Prince George and general Upper Nechako area in 1910. He describes Fort St. James and the HBC post located there in the summer of 1911; the old trails in the area, leisure activities at Fort St. James, and how much everyone enjoyed the area; A.G. Hamilton's trading post in Fort St. James; work he did over the next several winters; how the war disrupted life; his father's trading post at Fort Fraser in 1915; how he and his brother bought out the trading post and went into business for themselves; the kind of people in Fort St. James before the war, including railroad construction men and other old timers; Mr. Murray who was a factor for the HBC and other characters; what makes the area so attractive; the difficulty nowadays at making a living as a trapper; shifts in mining techniques, changes in the Necoslie Valley after WWI; and how Fort St. James continues to be a jumping off point for miners and people of various vocations. TRACK 2: Mr. Dickinson continues how t;he HBC got supplies to their forts; how the war affected business in the area and how the mercury mine boosted the economy; how preemptors could not get good land because companies took all the prime ;real estate.;

CALL NUMBER: T1038:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1971 [summer] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Dickinson comments on the attitudes of people and various characters in Vanderhoof from his past; anecdotes about gold miners and how the landscape has changed; buildings at Fort St. Jam;es that are no longer standing; how the younger generation is not as reliable as the older generations; the fur trade around Fort St. James and how the local buyers had the monopoly; and a few old timers. TRACK 2: Mr. Dickinson describes traffic going through Fort St. James; changes in the area resulting in growing industry and construction; the rivalry among stores between the HBC and Dickinson and others; placer mining areas; freight service into the Nechako Valley by the HBC, Dickenson's surveying career from 1910 to 1913, including descriptions of places he surveyed; and miscellaneous comments about today's pioneers and industries.;

Spencer Hope Patenaude interview : [Beck, 1974]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Cariboo recollections RECORDED: Williams Lake (B.C.), 1974 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: In an interview with Reg Beck, Spencer Hope Patenaude discusses early Williams Lake, Horsefly, 150 Mile, and 153 Mile House. Bullion Mine described. Telegraph lines in the Cariboo. Anecdotes about telegraphy and the life of a telegraph operator. 150 Mile House pioneers. Chinese in 150 Mile House. Ox teams and freighting on the Cariboo Road. Grist mills and grain growing. Sawmilling. TRACK 2: Description of the engines and workings of the Miocene mine. Anecdotes about maintaining the telegraph lines. [End of interview]

James Robertson interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1965-12-03 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. James Robertson remembers life as a rancher and as a freighter. Mr. Robertson describes how he came from Scotland to Banff in 1904; his work on the Canadian Pacific Railway; the Gang Ranch from 1905 to 1907; Vancouver in 1907; more on the Gang Ranch; the Dog Creek Ranch (the Joseph place); more about the Gang Ranch to 1910; other ranches; a strike at the Gang Ranch; J.D. Prentice, Managing Director, Western Canadian Ranching Co.; owners of the Gang Ranch; fishing; 100 Mile House, Benjamin "Benjy" McNeil of the 105 Mile Ranch; and the BX Stage. TRACK 2: Mr. Robertson continues about the BX Stage; "Drummers", traveling salesmen; his own freighting business; Ashcroft in 1910; Horsefly in 1915; Cataline, Miocene; and the Cariboo Road from 1911 to 1914.

Thomas E. Windt interview

CALL NUMBER: T0454:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Freighting on the Cariboo Road, 1910-1919 PERIOD COVERED: 1898-1919 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Windt discusses family background: father came to B.C. from Ontario in 1898; brought family to Pavilion in 1902; family background; settling the family ranch after 1902. Windt's early schooling. Food and supplies. Economic conditions of the family farm. Anecdotes about the Cariboo Road. Brother began freighting on the Cariboo Road in 1907. Description of freighting on the Cariboo Road between Ashcroft and Quesnel. TRACK 2: Windt visited the grave of Cataline (Jean Caux) at Old Hazelton. Cataline described. Experiences freighting on the Cariboo Road with wagons and sleighs. Details about wagons, sleighs and horses.
CALL NUMBER: T0454:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Freighting and mining in the Cariboo region, 1910-1939 PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of freighting on the Cariboo Road. Horse medicine. Steamers on the Fraser River between Soda Creek and Quesnel. Anecdotes about local policeman, Dave Anderson. Canoe travel on the; Fraser River. More about freighting on the Cariboo Road. Anecdotes about Charlie Ross of Soda Creek. Other anecdotes about local characters. TRACK 2: Windt worked at Antler Creek (near Barkerville), 1924-28. Techniques of working with a dredge described. During the Depression, Windt mined gold on the Fraser River. Chinese along the Fraser described. Comments about the changes in the Indian population.
CALL NUMBER: T0454:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Freighters and freighting on the Cariboo Road, 1900-1925 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1925 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: Freighters on the Cariboo Road described. In response to a list of former freight drivers on the Cariboo Road, Mr. Windt describes them and relates anecdotes and stories about freighting. TRACK 1: freighters A - G TRACK 2: freighters G - Z. (End of interview)

People in landscape : Soda Creek to Quesnel

SUMMARY: A visit to Soda Creek and vicinity, and a discussion of its role as a terminus for stage coaches, freight wagons, and sternwheelers. Voices heard are: Phyllis Bryant Kellis, Nellie Baker, Roddy Moffatt, Jim Keefe, Clarence Roberts, and Earl Baity. Elliott Weisgarber, Associate Professor in the Department of Music at UBC, is also heard.

Mary Baker interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1965-10-28 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Mary Baker discusses her father, Henry Steffans, who was from Switzerland and had a store in Lytton, then went to farm in the Nicola Valley; Mary's visits to an aunt and uncle Charlie McGillivray on the Cariboo Road; the Lytton Hotel and store fire; anecdotes about characters around Lytton; the Lorings. TRACK 2: Mrs. Baker discusses other settlers around Lytton; life on her father's Nicola Valley ranch; Ashcroft from 1907 to 1914; her husband Fred Baker, who came to Canada from England and ran a freighting business.

Harry Brown interview

CALL NUMBER: T2792:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Harry Brown's family; Dairy farming in the Fraser Valley before the Depression; selling milk to individual buyers; organisation of Fraser Valley Milk Producers; moving to the Cariboo, Likely; and Horsefly; ranching in Beaver Valley during the 1940s; what the place was like when he bought it; getting the ranch going; haying; feeding cattle; daily chores and routine; milking cows and shipping; cream to Williams Lake and Quesnel. TRACK 2: Ranching Beaver Valley; leisure time in the winter; feeding cattle in the winter; travel by horse and cutter in winter time; condition of roads; cattle drives to Williams Lake; Williams Lake in the 1940s; operating a general store in Horsefly in the 1950s; managing a men's clothing store in Williams Lake; Horsefly in the early 1940s; the general store in Horsefly from 1950 to 1958. CALL NUMBER: T2792:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: Harry talks about his years living in the Corner House, a large rambling log house in the centre of Horsefly; taking in boarders; feeding people; the General Store in Horsefly in the 1950s; bringing in beer for the local population; Niquidet's freight line from Williams Lake to Horsefly in the 1950s; customers; trappers, hunters, locals, tourists, forestry people; store goods; on the ranch in Beaver Valley; chores, fencing, irrigation; buying seed; pigs; the log home that was on the place when Harry moved in; building a barn; comparison between farming in the Fraser Valley and the Cariboo; winter on the ranch; Melba's father, Harry's father-in-law; food on the ranch.

Antoine Boitano interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Antoine Boitano talks about some aspects of the Cariboo, from 1880 to 1910. He discusses his family background, his father Augustine Boitano, the packer Jean Caux ("Cataline"), his father's pack train, ranches of the Chilcotin in 1890s, Jackass Mountain, freight wagons, the Koster family, an incident with a mule, race horses, the annual ball at Clinton, and music. Mr. Boitano plays the fiddle for the interviewer. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Alfred Drinkell interview

CALL NUMBER: T0314:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Alfred Joseph Drinkell tells some stories about the history of the Dog Creek area of the Cariboo, from 1860 to 1914. Drinkell discusses his arrival in BC in 1911. He describes the ranches he worked at around Ashcroft, Joseph Smith's place, and his financial problems and life before he came to BC. He tells anecdotes about Judge Begbie. He tells a story about Samsome, a local doctor, and the legendary packer Jean Caux ("Cataline").

TRACK 2: Drinkell relates the story of Cataline's last trip and describes many trails in the area. He speaks of Joy Sim, a Chinese doctor, and pioneer medicine. He discusses some of Cataline's packers: Robbins, Wiggins Dan Smith, and the first settlers in the area. He describes the Hudson's Bay Trail, freighting, roads in the area, stories about Phil Grinder of Jesmond, a local school teacher, and educated people.

CALL NUMBER: T0314:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Drinkell describes the early days of Ashcroft, the Chinese in the area, two anecdotes: the Wright of the Dog Creek Ferry and the Stobie of the Gang Ranch. He offers the background of the Gang Ranch and describes cattle drives, the Duke Of York, a Barkerville bartender, and local Indians.

TRACK 2: Drinkell discusses cowboys, social life and Christmas. Then he mentions Indian-White relationships and a story about Indians and the law. He discusses the Chilcotin and Shuswap Indians, problems with the reserve system, Chinese settlers in the Dog Creek area, and the importance of Chinese in the area. Finally, Drinkell tells the story of five Indian women who killed themselves over a white man, and how nails and gold dust were used as money.

Sarah Crosby interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1965-04-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Sara, or "Tottie", Mrs. R.T. Crosby, recalls her family background. Her father, William Boyd, arrived from Stratford, Ontario in the 1880s. Her mother, Mary Boyd, came from Prince Edward Island in 1884. Her father purchased 70 Mile House in 1883. She describes 70 Mile House in great detail, as well as the stopping house, the stages and freight wagons. She mentions a few characters who passed through including Pauline Johnson. She discusses the Flying U Ranch which was purchased in 1883 and turned into a guest ranch by her brother Jack Boyd in 1920. She tells stories about one of the teamsters; alcohol; Captain Watson; and the Spintlum family. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Mr. and Mrs. A.F. Haller interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1965 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Gussie Haller and Mrs. Maggie Haller of North Kamloops discuss their lineage in the Cariboo. Mr. Haller tells the story of his father coming to the Cariboo in 1858, as he settled at the Big Bar Creek; a trading post, now called the O.K. Ranch. His grandfather, Phil Grinder and the Grinder family also started the Jack Pine Ranch. They were dry farmers. Mr. Haller discusses smallpox; various people who were in the area, including Conrad Kostring; a description of dances and Christmas gatherings in the area. Finally, Mr. Haller tells the story of his father's pack train which traveled the Naas River.

TRACK 2: Mrs. Haller tells the story of her grandmother, the daughter of a Haida Chief. Her grandfather, Joe Tresierra, left Spain during a cholera outbreak and became a packer in BC. She tells the story of packers lost near Hazelton and a crossing bridge Yale. She describes her grandmother. She describes how the family lived in Clinton and how her paternal grandfather, John Miller, ran the ferry at Churn Creek. She describes high water; pet deer; the smallpox epidemic; and her grandparent's ranch. Then Mr. Haller describes how his father built a sawmill and dams. He describes his father's store and speaks of how his father packed supplies from Lillooet to Yale.

Chilcotin journey with Phyllis Kellis

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0001 - 0004 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: A series of recordings made by Imbert Orchard on a trip through the Cariboo-Chilcotin area with Mrs. Phyllis Bryant Kellis in June 1970 . The object of the trip was to retrace the Bryant family's journey from Clinton to Tatla Lake between 1919 and 1924. Mr. Orchard and Mrs. Kellis comment on both journeys, and talk to local people who recall the area as it was then. Portions of the recordings were used by Orchard in his CBC program "The Chilcotin Revisited" (T3289:0001). The tapes include ambient sound and commentary recorded at various locations, as well as the voices of: Peggy Keefe, Jim Keefe, Clarence Roberts, Elliot Weisgarber and other unidentified speakers. Locations visited include Clinton, Soda Creek, and the ferry across the Fraser River near Soda Creek.

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0001 tracks 1 - 4 [CDR] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: [Dubbed from source reels T1782:01 to T1782:04.] Track 1: Mrs. Kellis discusses her 3-day train ride, the beauty of the countryside, the Clinton hotel, and hotel manager Charlie Miner. (7 minutes) Track 2: Peggy Keefe describes how she came to know the Bryant family. The school near Soda Creek that Jane, Caroline and Alfred Bryant attended. She recalls the children and the piano. (5 minutes) Track 3: Jim Keefe recalls the Bryant family: their meals, their log cabin where, the family preparing for their trip. Sound of a train going by. Clarence Roberts discusses the Overland Charter Telegraph in Soda Creek, Mrs. Bryant (who cared for his mother in 1954), the old community hall, the old hotel, and a description of the town in earlier times. (13 minutes) Track 4: Unidentified speaker discusses a person who brought farming equipment to Soda Creek from Alberta 50 years earlier, then decided that the area was too rocky to farm, so sold his things and went home. The speaker describes the town as it was then, ferrymen, and members of the community. (13 minutes)

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0001 tracks 5 - 7 [CDR] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: [Dubbed from source reels T1782:05 to T1782:07.] Track 5: Recorded at the ferry dock 1 mile below Soda Creek. Mr. Orchard describes the landscape. Mrs. Kellis describes the ferry dock, and tells a story about a cougar and a dog. The recording continues on the ferry as it crosses the river. Ambience. Mrs. Kellis recalls where some gold was found. Discussion turns to the log cabin where the Bryants lived in Meldrum Creek. Mrs. Kellis describes where the well was dug. (11 minutes) Track 6: Mrs. Kellis continues the cougar story, and recalls the history of this specific cabin, where they lived after they leaving Sutton. The cabin as it is now, described by Mr. Orchard. Ranching in the U.S. and in B.C. Specific fences they used to keep away moose. Bachelors on ranches. (11 minutes) Track 7: A description of Buckskin Creek as an introduction to Jim Keefe's home, where the Bryants stayed after living at the Alger house. Mrs. Kellis describes the house, where lived there for a year to be closer to the school. The Gentle place near Charlie Ross' property just after the family lived at Sutton. An anecdote about chopping wood. Her feelings about the home at Bruin Ranch. Mr. Orchard describes the woods they have passed through to get to another log house owned by Mr. Sutton at Meldrum Creek. (11 minutes)

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0002 [CDR] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: [Dubbed from source reels T1782:09 to T1782:14.] Track 1: A speaker (possibly Willena Hodson) discusses how a home was broken into and robbed. Mr. Orchard describes the rooms and their functions. The house was built between 1914 and 1918. Mrs. Kellis recalls what the house was like when her family lived there. The first stagecoaches belonged to Mr. Hodson, just beyond Riske Creek and the Dark Cabin where Indians lived. (12 minutes) Track 2: Ambient sounds, followed by an interview with an unidentified man about different ways of getting to Williams Lake, ranching, working the cattle, economics of ranching, and a German princess who bought a ranch in the area. (7 minutes) Track 3: Most of the ranches in the sera have stayed with the same families over generations. The unidentified man discusses his family's ranch, and how the ranch may be shared/split in the future. Anna French describes the Bryant family upon their arrival at the Knowles place, the family as they were at Tatla Lake, Cyrus Bryant's father, life in Anahim Lake, feeding cattle in winter, and the "lively" Bryant children. (13 minutes) Track 4: Mrs. Kellis recalls the school teacher. A sink she installed. She describes another home the family lived in at Tatla Lake, the old chicken roost built by Cyrus and his father, and the barn. (9 minutes) Track 5: Mrs. Kellis discusses: a uncompleted bridge, more about the barn, a story about Alfred knocking himself out, a fight with the Graeme family and the pranks the kids pulled, more description of the landscape, One-Eye Lake, local families, and the four kids they boarded. (11 minutes) Track 6: Mrs. Kellis discusses the mountains in the distance; she was so busy that she never had an opportunity to appreciate scenery. Walks the family would take. How she felt about living at Tatla Lake as compared to Anahim Lake. Getting work in Williams Lake. Teaching kids to dance. Her first trip to Bella Coola from Williams Lake in the summer of 1930. (14 minutes)

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0003 [CDR] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: [Dubbed from source reels T1782:15 to T1782:19.] Track 1: Mrs. Kellis tells a story about apples being kept in the cellar, where Alfred would often smuggle them out to the other kids. More description and editorial by Mr. Orchard of the home and the Johnny Bull Creek and stream at Tatla Lake. Mrs. Kellis discusses what happened to the school when the family moved to Williams Lake, the whitewashed logs that they used to build the cabin, paint and colors. (12 minutes) Track 2: Ambience. Description of the location: the meadows around Tatla Lake during a race. More ambience. Harry McGhee, who was the postmaster at Tatla Lake, describes and discusses the meaning of Tatlayoko Lake: big wind. He describes his experience of coming to live at Williams Lake and then Tatlayoko Lake. (16 minutes) Track 3: Mr. McGhee continues by describing his first winter in Canada. His first impressions of the Bryant family. What life was like at that time. Tommy Hudson, who owned a freight ride. The small mills in the 1940s, and the effects on local ranchers of corporate mills. Mechanization. Ranches sold to outsiders. (12 minutes) Track 4: Mr. McGhee continues, discussing his garden, a character named Benny Franklin who opened up many roads in the area, stores in Williams Lake, a man named Sutton, experiences in winter trapping, and stories about Indians. (15 minutes) Track 5: Ambience. Discussion with an unidentified man about the Bryants when they lived at Tatla Lake. He tells stories about eggs, Tatla Lake snowfalls, freighting, his first impressions on meeting the Bryants at Tatla Lake, a story about a bull the Bryants owned, and his impressions of their house. (13 minutes)

CALL NUMBER: T1782:0004 [CDR] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970-06 SUMMARY: [Dubbed from source reel T1782:20.] Track 1: An unidentified woman (possibly Lillian Collier) discusses the stampede at Riske Creek many years prior, Indians, Joe Elkins, country dances, rodeos, and the impact of alcohol on the Indian people. (11 minutes)

Roddy Moffat interview : [Orchard. 1964]

CALL NUMBER: T0375:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-29 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Roderick "Roddy" Roy Moffat discusses how his father came out to the Chilcotin from Ontario and began ranching near Alexandria. Moffat offers several stories about his father when he drove a stagecoach. He discusses the tests necessary for a person to be a driver for the BC Line Company. He describes horses and drivers and the relationship between the two. There are many more stories about freighting days. Jerk-line teams had anywhere between four and twelve horses and three carriages. He describes how the horses were handled just outside of Ashcroft when the road became hilly and curved.

TRACK 2: Mr. Moffat discusses the competition between freighters to get the business of the Hudson's Bay Company out of Quesnel, alcohol consumption being a problem to achieving the contract, and then more on freighting. His father invented the snow roller for easier freighting in the winter. He describes the town of Barkerville. He discusses Chinese people as ranchers and as miners in the region. He discusses the Pinchbeck farm as the first farm in the area in Williams Lake and other early ranches: Levy Ranch in Soda Creek, McGuiness Ranch, 4 Mile Ranch, Sam Bohanon Ranch and that was all the farming until Quesnel. He describes many people in the area, old timers, and miners. Steve and Andrew Olsen are two characters he discusses, other Moffatts in the area, Alexander Flats, irrigation, the Hudson's Bay post at Alexandria, and the war between the Chilcotin Indians and the Alexander Indians.

CALL NUMBER: T0375:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-29 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Moffat describes the trail used by the Chilcotin Indians to invade the Alexander Indians, and how this route was used by Simon Fraser. He describes farmland and how technology has improved its uses. He discusses cattle farming near Quesnel. He describes his childhood and schooling. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Arthur Youngern interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Arthur T. Youngern describes how he came to Soda Creek in 1911; he describes Soda Creek, freighting for the government road crews, freighting between Ashcroft and Soda Creek in 1912, prospecting and the discovery of mica beds on Mount Brew; homesteading in Beaver Valley from 1912 to 1918, old timers remembered, John Likely and Frank Kirby, a description of Quesnel Forks and Keithley in 1911. [TRACK 2: blank.]

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