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Anthony Walsh interview

Tape summary: T1071:0001 Mr. Anthony Walsh discusses his experiences as a teacher at Inkameep Reserve School near Oliver, 1932 to 1942. He explains how he started teaching; the origin of his interest in Indian culture; his impressions of Inkameep reserve; early work with the Indian children; an Inkameep Christmas card; European interest in the Inkameep artwork; the nature of the children's art; native reactions; to white culture; the children's creative work; the school system; teaching at 6 Mile Creek; approaches to art; conditions on the reserve; why he went to Inkameep and then stayed; a description of Inkameep and the influence of the Old Chief. TRACK 2: Mr. Walsh discusses the North Okanagan reserve; the character and traditions at Inkameep; rock paintings; the school; Indian stories as drama; beginnings of school plays; costumes and masks; performances; evaluation by children of plays; reactions; "Tortoise and Hare" play; the children's reaction to school at various ages; and Chief Baptiste George.

CALL NUMBER: T1071:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Children's drama, dance, and art on Inkameep Reserve, 1932-1942 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-07-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Walsh discusses how Indian cowboys sang native songs; a contest to collect Indian songs; the development of dances from movements of animals such as the deer dance and butterfly dance; native art forms; a description of costumes; recitals; impression on white people; a "radio studio" at the school; recording at CBC Vancouver; a recital at the opening of Thunderbird Park in Victoria; ;art exhibitions in BC and abroad. TRACK 2: Mr. Walsh discusses the Inkameep nativity play; the story of the play; white interests; the Okanagan Arts and Crafts Society; leaving Inkameep; the effects; of war and how the school closed; the effects of the Inkameep experiment; the conditions on the reserve at the time of the interview; a growing understanding by white people; present problems and how; cooperation with white people is essential.;

CALL NUMBER: T1071:0003 track 1 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A visit with Emily Carr, and experience as a teacher on an Indian reserve RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-07-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Anthony Walsh discusses his visit with Emily Carr in 1939 or 1940, and their discussion of art and native culture; reflections on his Inkameep experience as the "richest part of my life"; the teacher/pupil relationship; growth from early failures; relations with adult Indians; a comparison of Okanagan Indian culture to other Indian cultures; how Okanagan culture has changed.

Catherine Maclure interview

CALL NUMBER: T0715:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1963 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Catherine Maclure, daughter of Samuel Maclure, talks about her early life in Victoria; the Maclure family; grandfather Maclure; family farm in Matsqui; grandmother Maclure; childhood re;collections; Abbotsford and the family telegraph operators. TRACK 2: Miss Maclure continues her recollections of the Maclure family; family telegraph operators in various locations; Samuel Maclure';s education; his art and architecture; house designs in Victoria; his architectural partners, Cecil Fox, Ross Lott; Mrs. Samuel Maclure; her watercolours of Songhees Indians; her marriage; Margaret Simpson; Mrs. Samuel Maclure; the MacLeod family; Samuel Maclure's interests; houses and offices he designed.

CALL NUMBER: T0715:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1963 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Maclure, daughter of Samuel Maclure, talks about the Carr family and Emily Carr; British immigrants; Rudyard Kipling's visit; the Royal Navy; Sir Clive Phillips-Wolley; Warburton Pike; Victoria at the turn of the century; and the Chinese gardens in Fairfield. [TRACK 2: blank.]

CBC Wednesday night : Portrait in memory -- Emily Carr

SUMMARY: "CBC Wednesday Night" was a multi-part series that featured performances of classical music, opera, drama, as well as readings, documentaries and talks. It ran from the early 1950s to October 27, 1963; in the 7:30 to 11:00 p.m. time slot. This episode is a documentary portrait of Emily Carr -- painter of the British Columbia forest, writer, eccentric -- and by some called a genius. Includes excerpts from interviews with Flora Hamilton Burns, Margaret Clay, Ira Dilworth, Laura Jamieson, Kate Mather, Edith Rive, ethnographer Marius Barbeau, art dealer Max Stern, and painters Arthur Lismer, A.Y. Jackson and Lawren Harris.

Flora Hamilton Burns interview

CALL NUMBER: T1286:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Burns talks about Emily Carr's early years in James Bay; the Richard Carr family and house; recollections of the Carr family; Emily's art education; Emily's first contacts with the Indi;ans in 1898; her studies in France; her trips to northern BC and the exhibition in Victoria where no recognition was given to her work. TRACK 2: Miss Burns continues with her discussion about Emily ;Carr; her art; her financial problems and frustrations; Marius Barbeau's interest in her art; recognition from eastern Canada in the 1920's; trips east and further visits to the Indians on the coast; ;her pottery; hooked rugs; dog breeding; pets; her first writings; her holidays; her friendship with Miss Burns; her personality; appearance and attitudes; artistic isolation; and her love of the west.

CALL NUMBER: T1286:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Burns discusses Emily Carr's religious beliefs; her attitudes towards the Indians' religious beliefs and philosophy of nature; her painting and sketching of the BC landscape; Eric Newton's opinion of her; her later work and ill health. TRACK 2: Miss Burns describes the arrival of her grandfather, William John Macdonald, in Victoria in 1851 to work for the Hudson's Bay Company; her; grandmother, Catherine Reid; her grandfather's work; his role as gold commissioner, collector of customs, and post master; his importing and exporting business; the family's trip to Scotland; W.J. Macdonald's political career; his position as Senator from Vancouver Island in 1872; his appearance; her grandmother's family; "Armadale", the family estate in James Bay, and the subdivision of the property.

CALL NUMBER: T1286:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Burns talks about Senator Macdonald's trips to England; his homes in Victoria; social life at "Armadale"; garden parties; entertaining the navy; and the Burns family. [TRACK 2: blank.]

George Clutesi and Annie Hayes interview : [Orchard & Edwards, 196- & 1961 & 1965]

CALL NUMBER: T0848:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: George Clutesi and his sister Annie Hayes discuss the procedure of the potlatch; the function of potlatches; Indian society; the potlatch and the Indian philosophy of giving; a description of a visitor's arrival; greetings; and gifts. TRACK 2: The discussion about the potlatch continues. Longhouse decorations; lighting; songs and dances; the welcoming song; special songs and dances; the Sea Serpent Dance; costumes; the War Dance; victory and celebration songs; farewell dance and song; the potlatch and Indian society.

CALL NUMBER: T0848:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: George Clutesi and Annie Hayes discuss the impact of the church and mission schools on Indian society, and the suppression of native culture. They speak of their own father and his role in the preservation of traditions, and the teaching of Indian culture and religion. They also discuss the "secret potlatch" of 1925. and Mr. Clutesi's presentation to the Massey Commission in 1949. TRACK 2: Mr. Clutesi recalls the early meetings held to revive native music and culture at Alberni; the teachings of Tutimias "Gus"; the establishment of the dancing and singing group, Somass Native Echoes; performances for Princess Elizabeth in 1951; folk festivals; performances; costumes; gathering cedar bark for costumes; and the BC Centennial celebrations in 1958.

CALL NUMBER: T0848:0003 track 1 RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Clutesi discusses the future of his dance group, Somass Native Echoes, and the need for ethnic pride. [ca. 10 minutes]. CALL NUMBER: T0848:0003 track 2 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-06-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 2: Mr. Clutesi recalls the loneliness and fear in his early days at the Alberni residential school; his school experiences; and his changing attitudes toward his home and his native culture. He; mentions his increased appreciation of the native culture, and their philosophy of giving; the improvements made in native education and the establishment of their own school system; and the emphasis; on culture.

CALL NUMBER: T0848:0004 track 1 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-06-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Clutesi tells the traditional story of Master Deer's encounter with the Wolf People. CALL NUMBER: T0848:0004 track 2 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1965-08-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 2: Mr. Clutesi recalls how Anthony Walsh inspired him to continue his career as an artist and to exhibit his paintings. Mr. Clutesi recalls his acquaintance with Ira Dilworth, Lawren Harris an;d Emily Carr. He describes his meetings with Emily Carr, and her influences. He discusses the Indian artist's approach to his work.

Kate Mather interview

CALL NUMBER: T1317:0001
PERIOD COVERED: 1924-1945
RECORDED: [location unknown], [1957-10?]
SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Kate Mather describes meeting Emily Carr in 1924, and her life as a boarder in Emily Carr's House of All Sorts. She describes Emily Carr's character; her living conditions; her pets; her art; incidents with the boarders; the lack of recognition of her talent; her writing; and recognition in later life. [TRACK 2: blank.];

CALL NUMBER: T1317:0002
SUMMARY: TRACK 1: This tape is an edited version of T1317:0001 (above) that may have formed part of the radio program "Living Memory: Emily Carr in Victoria" (see T3240:0001). This version lacks the interviewer's questions -- and perhaps some of Mrs. Mather's recollections as well, since it is considerably shorter, focusing on Carr's art and its eventual recognition. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Kathleen Agnew interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Agnew recalls her family coming from Montreal in 1913 and their introduction to Mr. and Mrs. R.P. Butchart. She discusses incidents involving the Butcharts at their home and gardens; t;he early cement site; the Bullen family; Jennie Butchart; the Flumerfelt family; other Victoria families; and her family coming to Victoria. TRACK 2: Miss Agnew recalls her family's first impression;s of Victoria; the family home; social life; the orchestra in Victoria; Emily Carr; Chinese servants; incidents at Prince Rupert; Victoria in the 1960's; tourism; the Empress Hotel; and changes.

Katie O'Neill interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Katie O'Neill : the Veasy, O'Neill and Alexander families PERIOD COVERED: 1860s-1944 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1966-09-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Katie O'Neill speaks about her mother, Marianne Veasy coming out from New York with her family who pre-empted the Bonaparte Ranch outside of Ashcroft (1860's). After her mother and father, Charles Patrick O'Neill, were married they went to Barkerville (1879), there were 3 children in the family and her father worked as a blacksmith. Following her father's death, her mother married James M;orrison Lindsey Alexander and the family moved to the Queen Charlotte Islands to take up cattle ranching, later moving to Port Simpson. She relates childhood memories of the cattle ranch in the Queen ;Charlotte Islands near Masset and growing up in Port Simpson c.1900. She talks about the Minskinisht village, Rev. Robert Tomlinson and her position as telegraph operator at Minskinisht (1906-1909), and the wreck of the "Mount Royal". She later trained as a nurse (1909) and worked in Victoria. Katie O'Neill nursed Emily Carr in 1944 during her old age and she relates some memories and impressions.

Margaret Clay interview

CALL NUMBER: T1323:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Clay discusses her impressions of Emily Carr; incidents; visits to Emily by Jack Humphrey and George Clutesi; Victoria's attitude to Emily; reaction to Emily's writings; the Carr family; Emily's house and her painting, "Vanquished", displayed at the International Federation of Business and Professional Women's Clubs. TRACK 2: Miss Clay continues with her discussion about Emily Car;r's religious beliefs; recollections of James Bay; Agnes Deans Cameron; Englishness of Victoria; Victoria in 1962; and an anecdote about Emily Carr.

CALL NUMBER: T1323:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Miss Clay talks about the Victoria Public Library and its history; Helen Gordon Stewart; the children's section of the library and interesting visitors. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Milo Fougner interview

CALL NUMBER: T1272:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Milo Fougner : arrival of Norwegian colonists in Bella Coola, 1894 PERIOD COVERED: 1894-1936 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1966-08-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Milo Fougner describes the early years of his life (born 1905). He begins with his first impressions of his first trip to Bella Coola including the first sawmill he ever saw, the influence of; the Church in his childhood, the arrival of Norwegian colonists in 1894, the lack of medical personnel, Sunday school at the Lutheran Church, the choir, poetry, organ music, the origins of the majority of the colonists, B.F. Jacobsen's arrival in Bella Coola, details of the colonists arrival in Bella Coola, the reception of the Indians on canoes, and the rivalry with Hudson's Bay people. TRACK 2: Fougner continues with details about life in the colony: transportation, land clearing, Rev. Saugstad, politics, the death of Rev. Saugstad, leadership of the colony after his death, the celebration;s on October 30th, the background of his father (Ivor Fougner), the adaptability of certain colonists, Milo's own life in the colony during the Depression years, industrial activities in the colony in;cluding logging and fishing, and details about the telegraph.

CALL NUMBER: T1272:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Milo Fougner : memories of Bella Coola colony between 1912 and 1940 PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1966-08-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Milo Fougner discusses the effects of World War I on the colonists, his father's occupations, and his own feelings toward Indians. Then he discusses the skills, knowledge, slavery, potlatches; and burial ceremonies of Indians. He then discusses growing up with Indian children and funerals including "crying hats". TRACK 2: Milo Fougner tells a story of Mr. Goldbloom who was a fur buyer fro;m 1919-1938, the name Klemtu, Lord Tweedsmuir's visit, nurse Jane Bryant, the Hudson's Bay Post in 1886, Fort McLoughlin, HBC Factor John Clayton, artists Mildred Valley Thornton and Emily Carr, the possibility of the railroad terminus at Bella Coola from 1912-1918, the Dunvegan Railroad, Milo's projections of Bella Coola as an oil line terminus, and cattle drives from 1928-1930.

Mrs. H.C. Scarth interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-18 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Florence Scarth (wife of Harry C. Scarth) talks about her memories and impressions of Emily Carr; the arrival of Mrs. Scarth's parents in BC; her trip to the Skeena; early Victoria; James Bay; the mud flats; Government Street; saloons; stores; residences; Chinese servants; the Indian reserve; Indian fishmongers; Chinese vegetable gardeners; milkmen; the Point Ellice Bridge disaster; the Klondike gold rush; other memories. [TRACK 2: blank.]

People in landscape : The Agnes Russ story

SUMMARY: The story of Agnes Russ, granddaughter of a Haida chief. She was born in the 1850's and married to a young chief who died, and later married Amos Russ, also the grandson of a Haida chief and a Methodist missionary. She tells stories of her long life with the aid of her daughter, Grace Stephens, and another Haida missionary, her son-in-law, Dr. Peter Kelly.

Roberta E. Robertson interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1962-05-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Robertson recalls the James Bay area in the 1870s and 1880s; the causeway; the chain gang; her father, Lieutenant Colonel Richard Wolfenden; his arrival with the Royal Engineers; his work as King's Printer; his rifle shooting awards; the family home in James Bay; the founding of the Fifth Regiment; her first husband, Charlie Innes; her first home in Esquimalt and her later life. She talks about her early life; living conditions; black residents; Sir James Douglas and his family; Judge Crease; Sir Matthew Baillie Begbie; the Chinese; the Royal Navy and a childhood incident. TRACK 2: Mrs. Robertson continues with her recollections of the Carr family; Emily Carr's character; and childhood incidents.

Walter E. Walker interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Walter E. Walker : reminiscences of life in the Nass River region, 1906-1930 PERIOD COVERED: 1906-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1966-05-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Walter E. Walker relates some information about Fishery Bay as a pre-contact trade centre, his background and coming to B.C. in 1906. He speaks about employment in the cannery industry, his position as accountant and later manager at the Port Nelson Cannery on the Nass river, the Nass canneries, Mill Bay, descriptions of locations along the Nass, a story about an Indian slave sacrifice, the Arrandale Cannery, and Nimpkish Lake (Vancouver Island). He describes the visit of Marius Barbeau (1928/30) and Ernest MacMillan, Chief Frank Kdex and his story, music recordings and filming, Emily Carr's visits to the area, reaction to her art and totem poles. [TRACK 2: blank.]