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Bill Bagley interview

RECORDED: Ghost River (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Freighting supplies in Kananaskis Valley, winter 1931. George Pocaterra. Ray Patterson. Banff Park outfits used both east slopes and BC areas of the Rockies. Soapy Smith. Frank Philipps; hunted Elk Valley in the 1940s. First packing/wrangling was dude trips for Claude Brewster and Soapy Smith in 1936. Banff wardens noted. Travel and fire permits required. Foreman at Kananaskis Ranch after 1950. Worked for Bud Brewster's outfit out of Banff. 25 years of wintering horses in Ghost area. Size of Brewster's outfits. Johnny Boychuk. Jim Bagley. Trails in the 1930s were better than today. Some names; Rex Logan, Alvin Gwyn, Ollie Rasmussen, Jim Tegart, Albert Cooper, horse trip from Alberta to the Cariboo, 1935. Ollie Armstrong. TRACK 2: Various aspects of horse trips. Indians helped on short trips; not too dependable.

Floyd Smith interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Had class A guide's license for 55 years, from 1924 to 1979. On the trail since 1918. Dad, Carl, had outfit in Blairmore; drove Golden Gate stage in Yellowstone Park, 1895 to 1900. Crowsnest area; hunted Castle River, Flathead and Elk Valley. Nordstrom Brothers, Cutch Charlie. Trailed over south Kootenay Pass. Mike Baher. Hot springs in Elk Valley. Areas hunted. Crowsnest background, Frenchie, Charlie (Chink) and Jim Riviere, Buckhorn ranch sold. Guided west of Turner Valley. Started guiding in Banff area for Claude Brewster, 1945. Others mentioned, Alvin Gwyne, Soapy Smith, Art Cartledge. Stoney Indians: rented their horses, good guides for elk, moose, etc. Trophy heads. Yoho Park horse concession with Johnny Boychuk, 1950 to 1954. Summer operation at Assiniboine/Marvel Lake in later years. Some packing for geological surveys, forestry lookouts. Southern Rockies name: Johnny Musgrove, Bert Rigall, Charlie hunter. Photo/lecture tours. Wife, Lillian cooked at Lake Louise, Lake O'Hara, etc. TRACK 2: Hollywood movie work mentioned. Guided for Fred Brewster in Jasper, 1948-49. Tom Vinson. Floyd covered much of Rockies from US border to north of Jasper.; Guided some big name clients. Prices and costs noted. Some reflections on pioneering horse use.

Mary Baher interview

RECORDED: Fernie (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Martin Baher started guiding in early 1920s. Homesteading and hunting in Elk Valley. Hunting clientele. Mike Baher, brother. Used twenty-two horses and cabins. Cooked for most trips. Recollections of grizzly bear. Snowbound in Bull Valley. Observing game. Bull River hunting territories. Doyle Reay, Pete Lum, One-Armed Billy Boivin, Alex Clarkson, Chauncey Smith. Cutting trail to Conner Lakes. Bull River Valley; cabins, Hornaday Pass access. Charged twenty-five to thirty dollars per day. Her other chores. TRACK 2: Names of guides and cooks. Record trophies. Other area guides. Move to Fernie, 1929. Mike Baher guided for twenty years; Martin for forty. Elk Valley recollections. CPR cabins at Elk Lakes. Imperial (?) Mine. Respective birthplaces. Mike (Mathias) Baher's book, "The Life and Times of the Elk Valley Sourdough".;

Mathias Baher interview

RECORDED: Sparwood (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family arrived at Elk Valley in 1902. Worked in coal mines at Luscar, 1923. Two winters trapping in the NWT. Brother Martin, Joe Vlasak and Mathias started outfit, 1929. Early Elk Valley; outfitters/guides; Chancy Smith, Billy Boivin, Neil MacQuarrie, Charley Nordstrom. Hornaday/Phillips trip, 1905, one of the first sporting trips, employed Charlie Smith, Mac and John Narbou, Hugglestone; see "Campfires in the Canadian Rockies" (1906). Old Kootenay outfitters; Art Nichol, Peter Lum. Numerous outfits used the Bull River area. Mathias had 26 horses. Max Ebert. A local shooting incident. Harry Kylar cooked. TRACK 2: Description of guiding territory; Elk Valley, Fording River, Cadorna Creek. Handles two parties simultaneously. Start of Local Guiding Association, circa 1950. Accessing his territory. Trip Length. Cabins used for hunting and trapping. Alberta area: Buffalo Head Ranch. Alberta outfits using BC areas: Frank Philipps, Elk Lakes, Andy Russell, Flathead, Vensel Dvorak. Evolution of access, guiding and hunting pressures in the region. Record trophy heads obtained. Early motion pictures of hunting. His autobiography, "Life and Times of an Elk Valley Sourdough" discussed. Revised edition.

Max Ebert interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.1 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discussion on placer gold mining at Wildhorse Creek; theory of Lost Lemon Mine; Bull River; hydraulic mining, bottle of gold. Ran air locomotive in Michel coal mines. Description of early outfitter, Billie Boivin. Secret of the diamond hitch. Started wrangling circa 1920 to 1921. Billie Boivin railroading, how he lost his arm, eleven-horse string, dangerous Eastman-Kodak trip. Johnny Lewis. Kettering party, circa 1922. TRACK 2: Early local guides; Nordstrom brothers, Norbou brothers, Chancy Smith. Elk Valley game reserve. Game wardens. Guide's license in 1922. Also guided for Earl McGuiness and Martin Baher. Sheep psychology. Some hunting stories. Browning party. Record goat heads from Berry Creek. Martina and Mike Baher had outfits. Joe Krivensky.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.2 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: Joe Krivensky, continued. Elk Valley hot springs. Alex Clarkson cooked. Circus exploits. Grizzly and black bear stories. Topographical names. Crossbreed oddity. Guided until about 1948.

Owen Philipps interview

RECORDED: Cochrane (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Frank Philipps worked with Interprovincial Boundary Survey, also Brewster's. Started own outfit out of Banff in early 1920s. Banff was summer/fall base after 1923 moved to North Vancouver.; Summer fishing trips. Charlie Phillips (uncle), Alvin Gwyn helped guide. Areas: Palliser River, Royal Group. Some big name American and European clients. Characteristics of German hunters. Helpers: Tom McIvor, Phil Cook, Ray Legace. Philipps used to hire other outfits out of Banff. Wintered his horses at the "Corners". Owen Philipps's initial clients and hunts. Southern extent of hunting areas noted. Billy Boivin, one armed guide. TRACK 2: Used some CPR cabins in the Elk Valley. Used White and Bull Valleys in early years; also Cross and Palliser. Other outfitters; Nixon, Tegart, Bill Richardson. Magazine articles in the 1930s. Preparing capes for taxidermist Horace (Pop) Halloway. Wounded grizzly. Banff Park once included Kananaskis area. Memories of Bill Peyto. Some Vancouver corporate clients. Hunting publicity. Frank Philipps ended up with territory in Northern Rockies, early 1960s.