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Orchard, Chauncey Donald, 1893-1973 Logging--British Columbia--History
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Gordon Gibson interview : [C.D. Orchard, 1960]

CALL NUMBER: T1856:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Gordon Gibson story (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1904-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Gordon Gibson describes his early life as a logger, especially on the West Coast of Vancouver Island. Work for the Munitions Board during the First World War. The Gibson family's involvement in the shingle industry, logging and in the pilchard industry, all on the West Coast. The Gibson's accidental entry into the shipping industry. Anecdotes about the SS "Malahat". TRACK 2: More about the "Malahat", especially on the Queen Charlottes. The Gibsons begin to prosper. More about the "Malahat". CALL NUMBER: T1856:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Gordon Gibson story (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1916-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Getting into the forest industry in the 1930s and 1940s. Logging shows on the west coast of Vancouver Island. The Gibson family's business deals. Description of early camp conditions. TRACK 2: The construction of Jeune Landing logging camp. Changes in loggers' lifestyles. CALL NUMBER: T1856:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Gordon Gibson story (part 3) PERIOD COVERED: 1948-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Gibson recalls a 1948 speech by his brother Clarke to the Truck Loggers Association. Discussion of the development of forest policy in B.C. TRACK 2: Continuation of the discussion of forest management policies. Discussion focuses around the situation in Quatsino Sound. CALL NUMBER: T1856:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Gordon Gibson story (part 4) PERIOD COVERED: 1948-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the discussion of forest management policies in B.C. Discussion of the 'Sommers Case': how Gibson got into politics; disagreements with the East Asiatic Co.; early discussions with Sommers; money to Coalition for campaigning funds; the Lord Commission; involvement of Gordon Wismer. TRACK 2: The Sommers Case (cont'd): connection between FMLs and Coalition campaign funds; more on the Lord Commission; Gibson's resignation and the Lillooet by-election; the Sturdy-Eversfield connection; Sturdy's presentation of evidence to the Sloan Commission; Eversfield and Sturdy visit Bonner; the RCMP (Butler) Inquiry. CALL NUMBER: T1856:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Gordon Gibson story (part 5) PERIOD COVERED: 1948-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of a discussion of the Sommers Case: the RCMP (Butler) Inquiry; Johnny Fairburn incident; Britannia Beach story; Liberal Party opposed Gibson; speculation about the amounts involved; philosophical implications. Orchard gives his side of the story. Further discussion of forest management policies. TRACK 2: More on forest management policies and matters of political philosophy. (End of interview)

Reginald V. Stuart interview

CALL NUMBER: T1871:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Reginald V. Stuart : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1914-1927 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1927 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Arrived in Vancouver in 1910 from Golden. Worked for Robert Filberg at Golden, 1919. Description of Vancouver in 1910. Clearing land in Vancouver. Stuart's early work history. Went to work at Powell River in 1911. Stuart enumerates the major logging companies on the South Coast and on Vancouver Island. Logging methods and technology in 1911. Wages and working conditions. Woods jobs. Stuart's work as accountant and scaler. TRACK 2: Forestry officials prior to the formation of the B.C. Forest Branch. Logging methods. The establishment of the B.C. Forest Branch under H.R. MacMillan in 1912. Stuart joined Forest Branch in 1914. Attempted political interference with the operation of the Forest Branch. Resistance to the ideas of forest management. Stuart's territory as a ranger. CALL NUMBER: T1871:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Reginald V. Stuart : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1914-1927 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1914-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Anecdotes about Stuart's days as a ranger along the lower coast. Story of the resale of Hastings sawmill timber lease. Economic factors in the development of the forest industry. The low price of timber. Stuart worked for the Forest Branch, 1914-27. Reminiscences of the Chief Foresters: H.R. MacMillan, Martin Grainger, P.Z. Caverhill. TRACK 2: More on the career of M.A. Grainger. Comments on P.Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester in 1920s and 1930s. Stuart becomes manager of the Loggers Association, 1927. Public relations problems of the Forest Branch, 1920s. The first use of aircraft by the Forest Branch, 1917. Early air crashes near Vancouver. The first use of radios by the Forest Branch, 1920. Favourable comments on T.D. Pattullo. (End of interview)

Don McPhee interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Don McPhee : Sinclair Spruce Mills PERIOD COVERED: 1922-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1955 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: McPhee to the Prince George area in 1925. History of Sinclair Spruce Mills from 1922. Early logging methods. Wages and working conditions. Economic conditions, 1920s-1940s. Sawmills at Giscome and Willow River. Costs of logging in the 1920s. (End of interview);

R.J. Filberg interview

CALL NUMBER: T1873:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert J. Filberg : Comox Logging and Railway Company (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-06-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Pulp wood experiment conducted in mid-1940s for better understanding of waste wood. Ad hoc arrangements between Filberg, Harold Foley and the Coalition government on this experiment. Led to the building of Duncan Bay pulp mill. Role of John Hart. Working conditions in logging camps in about 1907-10. Wages. Railroad construction. The high calibre of labour in the logging industry prior to WW II. Changes in the kinds of timber logged, 1910-60. TRACK 2: Problems of forest fires and accidents. Poor economic conditions in the forest industry, 1907-40. Introduction of large-scale truck logging after 1937. Systems of cable logging. Filberg born in Sweden, 1892. Came to B.C. from the United States in 1909. Began work for Comox Logging and Railway Company, 1909. Laying out logging railways in the Comox Valley. Filberg worked briefly near Golden, B.C., laying out logging railway. Columbia River Lumber Company, Golden. CALL NUMBER: T1873:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert J. Filberg : Comox Logging and Railway Company (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-06-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Logging railway near Golden, B.C. The connection between Comox Logging and Railway Company and Canadian Western Lumber Company (Fraser Mills). Filberg's early logging experiences in Washington State. Old logging methods: skid roads, fore and aft roads, ground yarding. The development of logging in the Comox Valley. Expansion into the Ladysmith area with logging trucks, 1937. (End of interview)

Robert G. McDonald interview

CALL NUMBER: T1883:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert G. McDonald : B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911-1951 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-03-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: McDonald born in Ontario. To B.C. in 1911. First job in a Vancouver shingle mill. McDonald's brother's company, B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911. Various jobs, 1911-13. Joined his brother in B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1913. Mills and mill owners on the Fraser River. Box manufacturing. Details on the manufacture and sale of box shook. Takeover of Westminster Shook Mills by McDonald Brothers. TRACK 2: Anecdote about L.M. Crandall, later general manager of E.B. Eddy Match company. Grades of lumber. "Jap squares". Purchased Maple Ridge Lumber Company. The purchase of logging interests in the Salmon River area from Dewey Anderson. Acquired Forest Management License, ca. 1948. Sold out to Powell River Company, 1951. Details about sawmill equipment. The demise of the open log market. Log brokers. Small upcoast loggers.

CALL NUMBER: T1883:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert G. McDonald : B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911-1951 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1961-03-01?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of the demise of the open log market, ca. 1942. Anecdote about an old logger in the Salmon River area. Anecdote about Eustace Smith. The origin of the McLean boom. Story of buying a trucking firm. (End of interview)

Tom Elliott interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Tom Elliott : Interior lumberman, 1904-1957 PERIOD COVERED: 1904-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Tom Elliott to B.C. in 1904. Sawmills in the Central Interior. Log drives on the Thompson River system. Wages and working conditions. Elliott started his own logging camp in 1914. Moving logs by chutes and flumes. TRACK 2: Elliott's early work history. River and lake paddlewheelers. More on the Interior lumber industry.

Don King interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Don King : sawmill operator PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], [195-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Don King's family to the East Kootenays in 1900. Into lumber business in 1901. The King Lumber Company. Moved to coast about 1910. King-Farris Lumber Company. Mill and timber at Great Central Lake. Green Timbers. Business interests of the King family. Depression conditions. Founding M.B. King Lumber Company in 1932. Characters in the lumber business. Don King's early jobs around mills starting in 1916. Description of the Cranbrook mill. The lumber cut at Green Timbers. Labour conditions. TRACK 2: Working conditions. Hours of work. More on the M.B. King Lumber Company in North Vancouver. Sawmill waste. King family sold out to Fullerton Lumber Co., 1950. Don King formed Savona Timber Company. Farms and gardens near Green Timbers mill, Surrey. More on the Green Timbers mill. Stories about attempts to organize unions in 1930s. Management comments on union matters.

William Byers interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Interview with William Byers RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1961-08-11 SUMMARY: In an interview with C.D. Orchard, William Byers discusses his life in the forest industry: his background - Scotland, England, Canada; first job at a logging camp -- time keeper at a camp in northern; Ontario; life at early logging camps -- weather conditions, diet, living conditions; his duties as time keepers; anecdote about ruining his moccasins; events at beginning and end of camp; hauling logs; two spare teams; moving logs across lakes -- 'Alligator' barges. Came out to B.C. in fall of 1905: went to Nelson to pile lumber at a sawmill, but did not last long there. Next he went to town of Phoenix and drove a team for a livery barn. Working in a mine as a mucker. Mining experiences in B.C. and Montana. Mining accident, develops rheumatism. Squamish camp -- bull teams. Became shift boss at Britannia Mine, then foreman, then superintendent. Some prospecting in Barkerville. Stopped working in mines in 1912 after major strike. Joined Rocky Mountain Rangers for WW I. Went to UBC in 1919 for a course in forestry -- became a ranger (in Sechelt, Comox, Port Alice, Victoria). Moved to Vancouver in 1928 as Supervisor of Scaling until he retired in 1947. Describes scalers. Opinion on unions. Anecdotes about his job as Supervisor of Scaling. (End of interview)

Gordon and Jack Gibson interview

CALL NUMBER: T2719:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Gordon and Jack Gibson : the Gibson family (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1886-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mother's and father's personal background. Mother to Vancouver in 1886, father in 1896. Family's economic situation. Father (William F. Gibson) involved in Bridge River gold rush. Family in Yukon, 1903-05. G. Gibson born in Yukon, 1904. Family to Vancouver in 1906. Father's work history. Father a timber staker and cruiser. TRACK 2: Comments on the Vancouver real estate boom, 1912. Father; joined Forestry Corps, 1914. Odd jobs for young brothers. Father rejected for overseas service, 1915. G. Gibson goes logging with his father, 1917. Logging aircraft spruce during WW I. Building their first mill after WW I. Gibson family moves to Ahousat in early 1920s. The Gibson's on the West Coast of Vancouver Island: boats, the pilchard industry, 1925-32. Ahousat during the Depression.; CALL NUMBER: T2719:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Gordon and Jack Gibson : the Gibson family (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of Ahousat and the Native people. The purchase of the SS "Malahat". Anecdotes about the "Malahat". Hauling logs on the Queen Charlottes. TRACK 2: More anecdotes about the "Malahat". The end of the "Malahat". Logging airplane spruce during WW II. Dividing the work between the four brothers. Built sawmill at Tahsis after WW II. Building Tahsis. The Gibsons amalgamate with the East Asiatic Co. The Gibsons in the whaling business at Coal Harbour. CALL NUMBER: T2719:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Gordon and Jack Gibson : the Sommers case (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of the Gibsons' involvement in the whaling industry. Gibsons sell out completely to the East Asiatic Company, 1952. Relations between the Gibsons and East Asiatic, 1948-52. Jack Gibson's political career: Gibson's predecessor A.W. Neill; 1945 nominating convention; Gibson MP, 1945-53; Gibson sat as an independent; comments on his communist seat-mate Fred Rose. How Gordon Gibson came to run in 1953 provincial election. G. Gibson's position before the Sloan Commission. Anecdotes about the 1953 election campaign. TRACK 2: Improper granting of FMLs under the Coalition government, 1947-52. The role of campaign funds. Discussion of the Sommers case. Gibson's resignation over the Sommers case. Gibson's defeat in 1955 by-election. Gibson feels Social Credit party involved in FML scandal. Discussion of the "money talks" speech, 1955. Sammy Craig and BCFP incident. Story of G. Gibson's address to UBC forestry class. CALL NUMBER: T2719:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Gordon and Jack Gibson : the Sommers case (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1948-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Comments on the Sloan Commission hearings. Bob Filberg of Canadian Western Forest Industries was the campaign funds "collector" for the Coalition from the forest industries. Circumstances surrounding the granting of FML #2. Why the Gibson brothers did not apply for an FML. Comments on R. Sommers' gambling. Gambling with people in the forest industry. Gordon Gibson recalls discussing FMLs with W.A.C. Bennett. H.R. MacMillan opposed to FMLs at one time. Anecdote about Gordon Gibson being ejected from the B.C. Legislature, 1955. The Lord Commission, 1955, discussed. The people involved in the hearings: Arthur Lord, Alfred Bull, T.W. Brown. TRACK 2: Ron Howard, Gibson's lawyer. G. Gibson's reaction to the findings of the Lord Commission. Comments on Bonner's role. Positive assessment; of Judge Arthur Lord. The Lillooet by-election, 1955. Anecdotes about the by-election campaign. The Gibsons' connection with David Sturdy. Discussion of Sturdy and Charles Eversfield. Meetings to discuss the Eversfield evidence with the Gibson brothers, Ron Howard, Tommy Gold, Stuart Keate and Donald Cromie. Payments to Sturdy. Comments on Sturdy's judgement. Comments on Eversfield. RCMP Inspector W.J. Butler. CALL NUMBER: T2719:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Gordon and Jack Gibson : the Sommers case (part 3) PERIOD COVERED: 1953-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Comments on the "money talks" speech. Discussion of the presentation of the Eversfield evidence to the Sloan Commission, Dec. 1955. The role of Charles Locke, the Sloan Commission counsel. The Gibsons have never seen the Butler Report. J. Gibson asked federal Justice Minister Stuart Garson to see the Butler Report but was refused. Discussion of the Tahsis Company in the Butler Report. The role of C.D. Orchard and the Forest Service. Davie Fulton, federal Justice Minister, put pressure on the Sommers case. Implications of Sommers case for Jack Gibson's role as a Liberal party fund-raiser. TRACK 2: Payments from Gibson to Sturdy. Peripheral involvement of James Sinclair, Johnny Fairburn and Sid Smith. Gibson has no specific knowledge of the alleged payoffs to keep Sommers out of the country. Gibson did not attend trial. Comments on the role of C.D. Scultz. Gibson did not know the Gray brothers. No ministers other than Sommers benefited personally from the bribery scheme. The Gibson brothers considered applying for an FML. Gibson cannot recall details of meeting with Sommers prior to famous speech. Miscellaneous comments. (End of interview);

Wilfred Hanbury interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Wilfred "Fred" Hanbury : a lumbering family in Manitoba and British Columbia PERIOD COVERED: 1902-1935 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-01-30 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of father's logging camp in Manitoba, 1890s. Camp conditions. Sawmilling methods. Father moves into B.C. lumber industry after 1902. Had mills in Vancouver and East Kootenays. Marketing lumber through 'lineyards'. Buying timber in B.C., early twentieth century. Fred Hanbury bought timber near Kamloops, 1919. Vancouver lumber merchant, 1920-30. Elected to House of Commons, 1930. TRACK 2: Sets up mill at Monte Lake, 1929. Forest industry people in the Shuswap area. Old-timers in the interior lumber industry. (End of interview)

R.D. Merrill interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): R.D. Merrill : timber investment and logging in British Columbia PERIOD COVERED: 1898-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: R.D. Merrill to the west coast from Michigan in 1898. Merrill family timber holdings in B.C. Opening logging operations on Vancouver Island and on the lower coast, Menzies Bay, Theodosia Arm. Various timber interests of the Merrill family in B.C. Corporate setup of Merrill Ring and Moore, and Merrill Ring and Wilson. Anecdote about inspecting timber near Campbell River, 1898. The value of holding timber land. Merrill's brother Tom to B.C. in 1880s. (end of interview). The voice of Prentice Bloedel is also heard.

Sidney Garfield Smith interview

CALL NUMBER: T1879:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sid Smith : Bloedel, Stewart and Welch, 1911-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1905-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Smith to B.C. to locate timber in 1905. Worked for Bloedel in Washington. Smith's work in logging camps starting in 1906. Began logging at Myrtle Point in 1911. Logging methods, ca. 1913. Changes in the importance of various woods jobs. Yarding and skidding equipment. Became a manager for Bloedel, Stewart and Welch, 1921. Managing logging camps at Myrtle Point, Union Bay, Menzies Bay and Great Central Lake. The economic conditions for logging companies. TRACK 2: The difference between logging cedar and fire. Problems of marketing lumber of various species. Campbell River Timber Company deliberately burning felled and bucked timber to avoid royalty payments. Opening up logging at Franklin River, 1930s. Strike in 1934. The role of George Pearson, Minister of Labour in Pattullo government. The merger of H.R. MacMillan Export Company and Bloedel Stewart and Welch, 1951. How Smith came to B.C. from the United States in 1905. Logging camp conditions at Myrtle Point, ca. 1913. CALL NUMBER: T1879:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sid Smith : logging camps and forest management PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Smith describes a typical logging camp, ca. 1914. Working and living conditions. First meeting with H.R. MacMillan, ca. 1913. Smith's opinions on forest management by the B.C. Forest Branch. Comments on the granting of Forest Management Licenses especially FML 22 and the 'Sommers Case'. Criticizes the stance of Gordon Gibson on FMLs. (End of interview)

Leonard R. Andrews interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leonard R. Andrews : the B.C. Forest Branch and the BCLMA, 1912-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-02-28 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Hired by H.R. MacMillan to work for the B.C. Forest Branch, 1912. U.S. advisors to the Forest Branch: Overton Price, John Lafon, R.E. Benedict. Andrews appointed District Forester in Vernon, 1913. The job of District Forester. Appointing fire wardens. H.R. MacMillan as Chief Forester. Fought in WW I. Returned to Forest Branch in 1918. Andrews becomes District Forester in Vancouver, 1920-25. Andrews was secretary-manager of the B.C. Loggers Association, 1925-27. Went to Bloedel Stewart and Welch at Menzies Bay, 1927. TRACK 2: The BSW camp at Menzies Bay. Andrews ill with TB, 1928. Joined B.C. Lumber Manufacturers Association, 1929. International trade arrangements for lumber. Andrews a member of the trade delegations in the 1930s. During WW II worked for federal Timber Comptroller, 1939-42. Was BCLMA representative in Ottawa, 1942-45. Then became secretary-manager of the BCLMA. Description of Bloedel Stewart and Welch camps, Menzies Bay logging operation, ca. 1927. Details on bunkhouses. Rates of pay. Working conditions. Logging methods. Forest Service personnel. Details on the career of H.R. MacMillan, ca. 1915-19. (End of interview)

Richard Fiddick interview : [C.D. Orchard, 1961]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Richard Fiddick : logging on eastern Vancouver Island, 1895-1950 PERIOD COVERED: 1895-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1879. Working in the woods since ca. 1895. Fiddick's experiences in various coastal logging camps, 1895-1900. Methods for rafting logs. Worked on streetcars in Vancouver, 1901-04. Fiddick's logging operation near Nanaimo. Fiddick opens his own coal mine, ca. 1924. Story of Fiddick's fight with the E&N over coal rights. TRACK 2: Fiddick as a logging operator. Horse logging. Supplying timber for ties at Headquarters Camp, Comox Valley. Working for the B.C. Electric on street cars in Vancouver. Losing logs in a storm. Anecdote about building a bridge. Anecdotes about river driving on the Cowichan River. Fiddick's family background. (End of interview)

L. Sawyer Hope interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): L.S. Hope : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1920-1923 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1923 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-01-19 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Came to work for the B.C. Forest Branch from the University of Toronto, 1920. Timber cruising in the Ocean Falls area. The Victoria office of the Forest Branch. Timber cruising conditions in Prince George area, winter of 1921. Idea of a pulp mill in Prince George. TRACK 2: More on the pulp wood cruise in the Prince George area. Married in the summer of 1921. Became Assistant District Forester in Nelson Forest District, 1922. The rangers in the Nelson District. Hope's work as Assistant District Forester. Sawmills in the Nelson District. The cutting of poles, posts and ties. Match block manufacturing in Nelson. Fire fighting equipment in the Nelson District. (End of interview)

Lloyd C. Rodgers interview

CALL NUMBER: T1850:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Lloyd Rodgers : coastal logging, 1910-1942 PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1942 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1956 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Rodgers began in the woods in 1910. Working conditions in logging camps. Attended Frontier College. Experiences in coastal logging camps, 1910-14. TRACK 2: Ground lead logging. Other logging methods. Began work for Capilano Timber Company, 1916. In 14 years, moved from powder man to logging superintendent. Became superintendent in 1920. Cold decking. Steam donkeys and gas donkeys. Camp conditions and labour relations. Camp food. Quit Capilano Timber Company about 1930 or 1931. Wage levels, 1916-30. Production levels. Several jobs as superintendent, 1931-37. Started Spring Creek Consolidated Timber Co., 1937.

CALL NUMBER: T1850:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Lloyd Rodgers : coastal logging, 1937-1956 PERIOD COVERED: 1937-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1956 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Logging in the late 1930s and early 1940s. Logging methods. Economic conditions. Sold out Spring Creek Consolidated Timber Company in 1942. Went to work for Bob Filberg of the crown company Aero Timber Co., 1942-46. Worked as a timber buyer after the war. Started work for the Powell River Company, 1951. Anecdotes about "Calamity Bell" (George Bell). More on salaries and working conditions. (End of interview)

Charles and Diana Marston interview

CALL NUMBER: T1861:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles O. Marston : the early B.C. forest branch, 1913-1916 PERIOD COVERED: 1891-1919 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-12-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family background in New England from 1638. Marston born 1891. The Biltmore School of Forestry, North Carolina. Details about the Biltmore school. Dr. Carl A. Schenck as the head of the school. Marston moves to Oregon, 1912. Began work for CPR Lands Department in East Kootenays. Joined B.C. Forest Branch in 1913. Timber cruising. TRACK 2: Traveling by B.C. Forest Service boat on the coast. Victoria office of the Forest Branch. Field work for the Forest Branch, 1914. Clo-oose land speculation. Forest Branch work, 1913-16. Anti-American sentiment causes Marston to leave Forest Branch. Worked for CPR in East Kootenays, 1916-17. Worked for H.R. MacMillan. Worked on aeronautical spruce supply in later years of World War I. CALL NUMBER: T1861:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles O. Marston : a forester in B.C., 1913-1925 PERIOD COVERED: 1913-1925 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-12-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Aeroplane spruce supply during World War I. Worked for Canadian Puget Sound Lumber and Timber Co. after World War I, 1919-25. Was an officer of the One Big Union, 1919. Was a logger at Alice Arm. Logging accidents and deaths. OBU organization on northern Vancouver Island. Improvements in working conditions. Traveling the coast on the Union Steamship Co. Mrs. Marston: Worked as an assistant to her husband during WW I; description of native peoples' way of life on west coast of Vancouver Island. TRACK 2: Potlatches briefly described. Crabs and what meat consumed. (End of interview)

C.S. Cowan interview

CALL NUMBER: T1867:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : the B.C. Forest Branch and its Chief Forester, 1914-1937 PERIOD COVERED: 1914-1937 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Joined B.C. Forest Branch, 1914. Was Forest Assistant in Vancouver District. Anecdote about trespassers. George McKay, first District Forester in Vancouver District. W.J. Van Dusen, the next District Forester in Vancouver. Anecdote about meeting H.R. MacMillan by coincidence in London. Had worked for Canadian Commission of Conservation prior to 1914. Early impressions of H.R. MacMillan. Reconnaissance surveys of timbered land for the Commission of Conservation and the Forest Branch. Anecdotes about woods work. Anecdotes about Martin A. Grainger. TRACK 2: More anecdotes about Grainger as Chief Forester, 1916-20. Administration in the early Forest Branch. Setting the stumpage and royalty levels. More comments on Grainger. Grainger quits Forest Branch to represent timber owners. Peter Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester, 1920-37. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : the B.C. Forest Branch, CFP (Nimpkish) and Weyerhauser, 1920s PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Peter Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester from 1920 to 1937 [1935]. Cowan was District Forester in Vancouver until 1926. Problems of fire control and slash control. Fire prevention. Development of fire fighting equipment. TRACK 2: More on fire fighting equipment. Left Forest Branch in 1926 and went to work for Canadian Forest Products at Beaver Cove. Problems with establishing pulp and saw mills at Beaver Cove. How the directors of International Harvester became the owners of the Nimpkish Valley timber. Cowan plans a logging development for Cyrus McCormack in the Nimpkish Valley. Went to Washington to work for Weyerhauser in 1927. Forest fire protection in Washington State. New fire fighting equipment. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : forest fire protection PERIOD COVERED: 1927-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Cowan talks about the development of new fire fighting equipment in Washington State. Changes in loggers attitudes towards fire. Developing fire protection practices. Orchard comments that B.C. generally follows developments in the U.S.A. More on fire fighting. TRACK 2: Anecdotes about the Canadian Armed forces. Stories about M.A. Grainger. Logging practices and changes. Logging and loading system. Application of tractors and early moving equipment to logging. Early logging trucks. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : logging methods PERIOD COVERED: 1880-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Evolution of logging methods, equipment and technology. (End of interview)

Martin Cain interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Martin Cain : lumberman and mill owner, Prince George, B.C., 1910-1955 PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1955 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1955 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Cain came to Prince George in 1918 and has been connected with the forest industry ever since. Wages and working conditions ca. 1918. Conditions in the lumber industry in 1910s and 1920s. TRACK 2: Details about mills and loggers in the Prince George area. Economic problems of Interior lumbermen in the 1930s Depression. Early truck logging about 1928. Historic costs of mill construction. Costs of horse logging. (End of interview);

Aird Flavelle interview

CALL NUMBER: T1855:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Aird Flavelle : half a century in the British Columbia forest industry PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Aird Flavelle tells the story of how he, Roland Craig and H.R. MacMillan spent the summer of 1907 staking timber licenses on the coast of B.C. for a group of Ontario investors. TRACK 2: Continuation of the story of the summer of 1907. Flavelle comes to B.C. in 1911 and goes into business with R.J. Thurston. Getting into the milling industry in Port Moody. Flavelle stays in the Port Moody mill until 1955. Differences between the type of lumber and siding cut in 1915 and 1955.

CALL NUMBER: T1855:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Aird Flavelle : the Port Moody mill and business anecdotes PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Details about the operation of Flavelle's Port Moody cedar mill. Mill operating costs. Anecdotes about timber sales. The problems of overseas export of lumber. The success of H.R. MacMillan as an exporter. Anecdotes about J.S. Emerson. Sources of supply for the Port Moody mill. TRACK 2: The demise of the cedar sash and door business. Business cycles affecting the operation of sawmills. Depression conditions in 1913. Story about a Chinese worker hanging himself. More on economic conditions. Price and wage comparisons over the years. (End of interview)

Joseph Edward Lewis Muir interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Muir : Vancouver Island logger, 1902-1944 PERIOD COVERED: 1902-1944 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Muir born in 1887 [actually 1875?]. Began work in the woods in 1902. Logging near Chemainus, ca. 1902. Land and timber transactions in the Crofton and Ladysmith area. Muir's work history in logging, mining and sawmilling, ca. 1902-05. Stories about skid road logging. Logging methods, ca. 1902. Logging camps described. Wages and working conditions. Work as a woods foreman. TRACK 2: Description of a logging accident. Chinese fallers. Wages in the Depression. Supervising falling crews. Hauling logs into Chemainus. Meals for loggers. (End of interview)

Eric Strimbold interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Eric Strimbold : northern Interior forest industry PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1955 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Strimbold to Prince George in 1911. Mills in Prince George. Family moved to Willow River. TRACK 2: Mills in the region around Prince George before 1920. Tie cutting. Comments on the problems of transporting chips. (End of interview)

Frank Kappel interview : [C.D. Orchard, 1963]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Frank Kappel : the forest industry in the Shuswap area, 1911-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1908-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1963-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Kappel's background in Europe prior to coming to Canada in 1911. Spent three years overseas during WW I. Began working for Rolf Bruhn in Shuswap area, ca. 1921. (Portion unintelligible) Description of Rolf Bruhn. Sawmills in the Thompson area. The Adams River Lumber Company and the Arrow Lakes Lumber Company. The origin of Kamloops Lumber Company, ca. 1920. Harry Turner. Other people in the forest industry in the Shuswap area. The R.W. Bruhn Lumber Company. The manufacture of poles and ties by the Bruhn Company. More on the mills in the Shuswap area. TRACK 2: Description of Rolf Bruhn. Kappel appointed ranger in 1913 for Shuswap area. Kappel's experiences with forest fires. Wages for loggers. Wages before 1940. (End of interview)

Douglas B. Taylor interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Douglas B. Taylor : early life, 1895-1914 PERIOD COVERED: 1895-1914 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1956 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Personal background. Arrived in Vancouver, 1902. Born in Refrew, Ontario, 1895. Family from Scotland. Description of boat trip to Alaska, 1902. Trip from Skagway to Atlin. Taylor became a surveyor. Memories of Victoria from 1904: the causeway, James Bay, Fairfield. Mills in Victoria. Kelowna in 1910. Conditions in survey camps. Working as a surveyor for Green Brothers. Description of trip from Victoria to Hazelton. Town site surveys of South Hazelton, Smithers, Fort George. Comments on the construction of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway. TRACK 2: Surveying and cruising Timber Licenses, 1913-14. Frank Green, A.H. Green and Fred Burden, surveyors. Surveying methods. World War I broke out while Taylor surveying in the Interior. Taylor joined armed forces in fall of 1914. Had been enrolled in forestry at the University of Washington. Taylor's reasons for entering forestry. (End of interview)

George R. Copley interview

CALL NUMBER: T1885:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): George R. Copley : a Vancouver Island logger (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1901-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Copley born in Nanaimo in 1881. Began logging at Chemainus in 1901 for Victoria Lumber and Manufacturing Company. Matt Hemmingson as Superintendent. Logging and loading equipment, ca. 1901. Supervising Chinese workers. Logging camp conditions. Meals. Hauling methods. TRACK 2: Logging railway methods. Details on hauling equipment. Anecdote about explosives. Quit logging in 1907. River driving on the Cowichan River. Work in a small 'haywire' outfit. Problems with fleas and bedbugs. Anecdote about bear hunting. Identification of various photographs.

CALL NUMBER: T1885:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): George R. Copley : a Vancouver Island logger (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1901-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the identification of photographs. The importance of the blacksmith in a logging camp. The mill at Chemainus, ca. 1902. Hand falling described. Copley describes his farm wood lot. (End of interview)

Ray Elford interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Ray Elford : Shawnigan Lake Lumber Company, 1897-1920 PERIOD COVERED: 1897-1922 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-09-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born 1880. Began to work for his family's lumber company near Shawnigan Lake about 1897. Costs of land and timber from the E&N Railway. Oxen versus horses for logging. Wages. Shawnigan Lake Lumber Company. Marketing lumber in Victoria and elsewhere. Supplied flag poles for Parliament Buildings and Beacon Hill. The mill at Youbou described, 1920. Anecdotes about working in coastal mills. TRACK 2: Establishing a small mill near Princeton. Milling in the Princeton area. Camp conditions at Shawnigan Lake, 1900. Efforts to unionize labour at Shawnigan Lumber Company, 1914. The introduction of locomotives. (End of interview)

John Burke interview

CALL NUMBER: T1852:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): John Burke : general manager of the B.C. Loggers Association (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1923-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Burke to Canada in 1923. Worked for Thomsen and Clark. Description of logging railroads. Marketing practices. Working conditions. TRACK 2: Fire protection. Financial dealings of Thomsen and Clark Timber Ltd. Burke became general manager of the B.C. Loggers Association. Labour relations and the formation of Forest Industrial Relations. The work of the B.C. Loggers Association.

CALL NUMBER: T1852:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): John Burke : general manager of the B.C. Loggers Association (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Brief comments on previous directors of the B.C. Loggers Association. Economic conditions in the logging industry. Early concerns of the B.C. Loggers Association. (End of interview)

C.D. (Dewey) Anderson interview

CALL NUMBER: T1853:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Dewey Anderson : B.C. coast logger (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1895-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born, 1895 in Bellingham, Washington. To Yukon in 1898. Father's work. Returned in 1902 or 1903. Father to B.C. in 1908. Dewey began logging in B.C. in 1909. Logging techniques, 1910. Early camps described. Meals. Wages. Costs. Timber logged by the Andersons. Anderson in American Army, 1917-19. TRACK 2: More on Anderson's army experiences. Split with his father in 1921. Grassy Bay Lumber Co. at Loughborough Inlet. Discussion of logging methods especially logging railroads. Dewey and Clay Anderson formed Green Point Logging Co., 1926. More on logging methods. Relocated to Harrison Lake, 1930. Depression conditions while logging at Harrison Lake. Problems selling in the depressed log market of the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1853:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Dewey Anderson : B.C. coast logger (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1957 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Selling logs on a depressed market, 1930s. Tensions between loggers and mill operators. Brother Clay started Granite Bay Timber Co. Family financial dealings. Financial strains in the Depression. Fond memories of camp at Harrison Lake. Always supported by his wife. Regrets not buying more timber on Harrison Lake. Finished logging at Harrison Lake, 1936. Anderson decides to move to Salmon River with new partner, Jim Robson. (End of interview)

Eustace Smith interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Eustace Smith : timber cruiser PERIOD COVERED: 1887-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-12-02 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Smith was born in 1876 and came to B.C. in 1887. Homesteading near Comox. Smith discusses his career as a timber cruiser on the coast of British Columbia.;

Joe Jordan interview

CALL NUMBER: T1862:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Jordan : Cowichan Valley logger (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1883-1959 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-05-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Jordan describes his career as a logger. Little detail and poor sound quality.;

CALL NUMBER: T1862:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Jordan : Cowichan Valley logger (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1883-1961 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-05-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Jordan describes his career as a logger. Little detail and poor sound quality.;

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