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Frank Kappel interview : [C.D. Orchard, 1963]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Frank Kappel : the forest industry in the Shuswap area, 1911-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1908-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1963-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Kappel's background in Europe prior to coming to Canada in 1911. Spent three years overseas during WW I. Began working for Rolf Bruhn in Shuswap area, ca. 1921. (Portion unintelligible) Description of Rolf Bruhn. Sawmills in the Thompson area. The Adams River Lumber Company and the Arrow Lakes Lumber Company. The origin of Kamloops Lumber Company, ca. 1920. Harry Turner. Other people in the forest industry in the Shuswap area. The R.W. Bruhn Lumber Company. The manufacture of poles and ties by the Bruhn Company. More on the mills in the Shuswap area. TRACK 2: Description of Rolf Bruhn. Kappel appointed ranger in 1913 for Shuswap area. Kappel's experiences with forest fires. Wages for loggers. Wages before 1940. (End of interview)

Thomas Roeser interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Thomas Roeser : a logger in Oregon and British Columbia, 1900-1930 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961?[ SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Roeser recalls ox logging in Oregon, ca. 1900. Recalls logging jobs and logging camps in Oregon, 1900-10. Logged in the East Kootenays for a time. Returned to U.S.A. Stories about various logging camps. Changes in logging methods and equipment. Logging camp conditions. (End of interview)

C.D. Orchard : [reminiscences]

CALL NUMBER: T1887:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): C.D. Orchard : forestry in British Columbia, 1920-1958 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1893-1925 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Orchard born 1893 in Wakefield, N.B. Became a teacher in N.B. Comments on the development of forestry education. Entered forestry at UNB. In Canadian Armed Forces, 1914-19. Returned to forestry at UNB. Obtained job in BCFS in 1920. Met forester Charles S. Cowan and Chief Forester M.A. Grainger. Orchard's introduction to the Forest Branch. Early survey and cruising methods. Field work in Vernon. Working conditions in the Forest Branch. Cruise of the Kelowna watershed, 1920. Work along the Nass River, 1921. TRACK 2: More on cruising in the Nass River area, 1921022. Forest Branch work. Indians in the Nass country. Aiyansh. Comments on timber sales and forest management. Orchard put in charge of all forest surveys. Timber cruising methods. The development of forestry education. CALL NUMBER: T1887:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): C.D. Orchard : forestry in British Columbia, 1920-1958 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1961 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: History of the B.C. Forest Branch: H.R. MacMillan, the first Chief Forester, 1912; early personnel; early forest inventories in B.C.; early organization of the Forest Service. Orchard becomes; District Forester in Cranbrook in 1924. Conditions in Cranbrook. Assistant District Forester in Nelson, 1925. Comments on Chief Forester P.Z. Caverhill. Forestry conditions in B.C., 1910-40. Early timber leases. Comments on the Fulton Commission, 1909-10. Comments on Martin A. Grainger, secretary to the commission and later Chief Forester. Letter from H.R. MacMillan about Grainger and A.W. Ross, Minister of Lands. The Nelson Forest District in the mid-1920s. TRACK 2: More on the forest district especially about forest fires. Orchard becomes District Forester in Prince George, 1927. Transportation in the Prince George district. A forester's problems: fires and accounts. Attempted political interference in the Forest Branch. Patronage in the Public Service. Conditions in Prince George. Internal Forest Branch matters. Orchard moved to Victoria office, 1930. Patronage appointments of some staff. Orchard's duties. CALL NUMBER: T1887:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): C.D. Orchard : forestry in British Columbia, 1920-1958 (part 3) PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Forest Branch finances: Forest Protection Fund and annual allotments. Changes in Forest Branch function: forest protection before 1940 and forest management afterwards. Problems of the Depression. Staff shortages. Forest Branch equipment. Fire pumps. Orchard become head of Forest Service research, 1932. More on Depression problems. Chief Forester P.Z. Caverhill dies, 1935. E.C. Manning becomes Chief Forester and Orchard Deputy Chief Forester, January 1936. Comments on Caverhill and Manning. Manning a promoter of parks. Parks turned over to Forest Branch in 1939. Parks to Recreation and Conservation in 1957. More on Manning. Manning dies in an air crash and Orchard becomes Chief Forester, 1941. Problems presented by WW II. The new job. TRACK 2: Problems of WW II. Forest industry profiteering. Labour problems. The perception of management problems in the early 1940s. The idea of sustained yield develops in the 1940s. Experiments in small log production. Role of Bob Filberg in these experiments. Political pressures on the Forest Service. Socreds susceptible to industry pressure. More on sustained yield. Orchard's memorandum on sustained yield, 1942. Private debate on forest management, 1942-43. Gordon Sloan appointed Royal Commissioner to look into forest management, 1943. The Sloan Commission. CALL NUMBER: T1887:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): C.D. Orchard : forestry in British Columbia, 1920-1958 (part 4) PERIOD COVERED: 1943-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Sloan Commission hearings, 1943-45. Orchard becomes Deputy Minister of Forests, 1945. Orchard continues as Chief Forester. Problems of wartime. Sloan's report in 1945 supports sustained yield. Evolution of the Forest Management License concept. E.T. Kenney becomes Minister of Lands and Forests, 1944. Comments on Kenney. Amendments to the Forest Act, 1946 and 1947. Disagreements with J.V. Fisher, Deputy Minister of Finance. Opposition to FMLs. Problems with the license system. Negotiations for early FMLs. TRACK 2: Forest management experiences elsewhere. Orchard's faith in the forest management system. The second Sloan Commission, 1955-56. Forest Service takes returning WW II veterans. Comments on UBC Faculty of Forestry. Ranger school at Green Timbers. Construction of ranger school. Comments on Fred Mulholland. Progress in the forest industry. Integration in the forest industry and reasons for it. Post-war production trends. Defense of forest management policies. Forest Service roads. CALL NUMBER: T1887:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): C.D. Orchard : forestry in British Columbia, 1920-1958 (part 5) PERIOD COVERED: 1912-[no date] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Forestry work under the Silvicultural Fund. Fund ended in 1956. The second Sloan Commission into forestry, 1955-56. The Socred takeover, 1952. Orchard's opinions of the Socred government. The Sommers case from Orchard's point of view. Summary of the accomplishments of the Forest Service from 1912. (End of interview)

Richard Fiddick interview : [C.D. Orchard, 1961]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Richard Fiddick : logging on eastern Vancouver Island, 1895-1950 PERIOD COVERED: 1895-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1879. Working in the woods since ca. 1895. Fiddick's experiences in various coastal logging camps, 1895-1900. Methods for rafting logs. Worked on streetcars in Vancouver, 1901-04. Fiddick's logging operation near Nanaimo. Fiddick opens his own coal mine, ca. 1924. Story of Fiddick's fight with the E&N over coal rights. TRACK 2: Fiddick as a logging operator. Horse logging. Supplying timber for ties at Headquarters Camp, Comox Valley. Working for the B.C. Electric on street cars in Vancouver. Losing logs in a storm. Anecdote about building a bridge. Anecdotes about river driving on the Cowichan River. Fiddick's family background. (End of interview)

George R. Copley interview

CALL NUMBER: T1885:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): George R. Copley : a Vancouver Island logger (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1901-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Copley born in Nanaimo in 1881. Began logging at Chemainus in 1901 for Victoria Lumber and Manufacturing Company. Matt Hemmingson as Superintendent. Logging and loading equipment, ca. 1901. Supervising Chinese workers. Logging camp conditions. Meals. Hauling methods. TRACK 2: Logging railway methods. Details on hauling equipment. Anecdote about explosives. Quit logging in 1907. River driving on the Cowichan River. Work in a small 'haywire' outfit. Problems with fleas and bedbugs. Anecdote about bear hunting. Identification of various photographs.

CALL NUMBER: T1885:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): George R. Copley : a Vancouver Island logger (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1901-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the identification of photographs. The importance of the blacksmith in a logging camp. The mill at Chemainus, ca. 1902. Hand falling described. Copley describes his farm wood lot. (End of interview)

Joseph Edward Lewis Muir interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Muir : Vancouver Island logger, 1902-1944 PERIOD COVERED: 1902-1944 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Muir born in 1887 [actually 1875?]. Began work in the woods in 1902. Logging near Chemainus, ca. 1902. Land and timber transactions in the Crofton and Ladysmith area. Muir's work history in logging, mining and sawmilling, ca. 1902-05. Stories about skid road logging. Logging methods, ca. 1902. Logging camps described. Wages and working conditions. Work as a woods foreman. TRACK 2: Description of a logging accident. Chinese fallers. Wages in the Depression. Supervising falling crews. Hauling logs into Chemainus. Meals for loggers. (End of interview)

Robert G. McDonald interview

CALL NUMBER: T1883:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert G. McDonald : B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911-1951 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-03-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: McDonald born in Ontario. To B.C. in 1911. First job in a Vancouver shingle mill. McDonald's brother's company, B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911. Various jobs, 1911-13. Joined his brother in B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1913. Mills and mill owners on the Fraser River. Box manufacturing. Details on the manufacture and sale of box shook. Takeover of Westminster Shook Mills by McDonald Brothers. TRACK 2: Anecdote about L.M. Crandall, later general manager of E.B. Eddy Match company. Grades of lumber. "Jap squares". Purchased Maple Ridge Lumber Company. The purchase of logging interests in the Salmon River area from Dewey Anderson. Acquired Forest Management License, ca. 1948. Sold out to Powell River Company, 1951. Details about sawmill equipment. The demise of the open log market. Log brokers. Small upcoast loggers.

CALL NUMBER: T1883:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert G. McDonald : B.C. Manufacturing Company, 1911-1951 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1961-03-01?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of the demise of the open log market, ca. 1942. Anecdote about an old logger in the Salmon River area. Anecdote about Eustace Smith. The origin of the McLean boom. Story of buying a trucking firm. (End of interview)

Leonard R. Andrews interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leonard R. Andrews : the B.C. Forest Branch and the BCLMA, 1912-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-02-28 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Hired by H.R. MacMillan to work for the B.C. Forest Branch, 1912. U.S. advisors to the Forest Branch: Overton Price, John Lafon, R.E. Benedict. Andrews appointed District Forester in Vernon, 1913. The job of District Forester. Appointing fire wardens. H.R. MacMillan as Chief Forester. Fought in WW I. Returned to Forest Branch in 1918. Andrews becomes District Forester in Vancouver, 1920-25. Andrews was secretary-manager of the B.C. Loggers Association, 1925-27. Went to Bloedel Stewart and Welch at Menzies Bay, 1927. TRACK 2: The BSW camp at Menzies Bay. Andrews ill with TB, 1928. Joined B.C. Lumber Manufacturers Association, 1929. International trade arrangements for lumber. Andrews a member of the trade delegations in the 1930s. During WW II worked for federal Timber Comptroller, 1939-42. Was BCLMA representative in Ottawa, 1942-45. Then became secretary-manager of the BCLMA. Description of Bloedel Stewart and Welch camps, Menzies Bay logging operation, ca. 1927. Details on bunkhouses. Rates of pay. Working conditions. Logging methods. Forest Service personnel. Details on the career of H.R. MacMillan, ca. 1915-19. (End of interview)

Charles Hugh Grant interview

CALL NUMBER: T1881:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles H. Grant : logging and milling in the Cumberland area, 1889-1902 PERIOD COVERED: 1889-1902 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grant born in 1889 [actually 1881]. Father a Conservative associate of Robert Dunsmuir and Richard McBride. Father started a mill for Union Colleries. The story of the beginning of Union Mines (Cumberland). Father built mining camp at site of Union Mines. Operation of handloggers described. The introduction of saws as a tool for falling. Old-time falling methods. Building skid roads described. Logging and milling for his father. Methods of hauling with horses and oxen on skid roads. TRACK 2: More on hauling methods. Horses and oxen compared for hauling logs. Old bull punchers described. Humane and inhumane treatment of oxen and horses in the woods. More on skid road hauling methods. Sawmilling methods. A special order for long timber from England. CALL NUMBER: T1881:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles H. Grant : the Courtenay area, 1900-1943 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1943 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of the special long timber order. Logging camp conditions. Food in the camp. Early Comox settlers. Speculation as to the origin of Garry Oak. Story of the Riverside Hotel, Courtenay. Grant ran the hotel for a year, ca. 1902. Worked on coastal boats for a time. Was a government agent and tax collector for provincial government. Anecdotes about tax collecting. (End of interview)

L. Sawyer Hope interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): L.S. Hope : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1920-1923 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1923 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1961-01-19 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Came to work for the B.C. Forest Branch from the University of Toronto, 1920. Timber cruising in the Ocean Falls area. The Victoria office of the Forest Branch. Timber cruising conditions in Prince George area, winter of 1921. Idea of a pulp mill in Prince George. TRACK 2: More on the pulp wood cruise in the Prince George area. Married in the summer of 1921. Became Assistant District Forester in Nelson Forest District, 1922. The rangers in the Nelson District. Hope's work as Assistant District Forester. Sawmills in the Nelson District. The cutting of poles, posts and ties. Match block manufacturing in Nelson. Fire fighting equipment in the Nelson District. (End of interview)

Sidney Garfield Smith interview

CALL NUMBER: T1879:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sid Smith : Bloedel, Stewart and Welch, 1911-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1905-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Smith to B.C. to locate timber in 1905. Worked for Bloedel in Washington. Smith's work in logging camps starting in 1906. Began logging at Myrtle Point in 1911. Logging methods, ca. 1913. Changes in the importance of various woods jobs. Yarding and skidding equipment. Became a manager for Bloedel, Stewart and Welch, 1921. Managing logging camps at Myrtle Point, Union Bay, Menzies Bay and Great Central Lake. The economic conditions for logging companies. TRACK 2: The difference between logging cedar and fire. Problems of marketing lumber of various species. Campbell River Timber Company deliberately burning felled and bucked timber to avoid royalty payments. Opening up logging at Franklin River, 1930s. Strike in 1934. The role of George Pearson, Minister of Labour in Pattullo government. The merger of H.R. MacMillan Export Company and Bloedel Stewart and Welch, 1951. How Smith came to B.C. from the United States in 1905. Logging camp conditions at Myrtle Point, ca. 1913. CALL NUMBER: T1879:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sid Smith : logging camps and forest management PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-12-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Smith describes a typical logging camp, ca. 1914. Working and living conditions. First meeting with H.R. MacMillan, ca. 1913. Smith's opinions on forest management by the B.C. Forest Branch. Comments on the granting of Forest Management Licenses especially FML 22 and the 'Sommers Case'. Criticizes the stance of Gordon Gibson on FMLs. (End of interview)

Prentice Bloedel interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Prentice Bloedel : Bloedel Stewart and Welch, and Alberni-Pacific, 1911-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1911-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Bloedel Stewart and Welch founded in 1911. Began logging at Myrtle Point. Also logged at Menzies Bay. Timber purchase in the 1920s. Great Central Lumber Company at Great Central Lake. The founding of Alberni-Pacific Lumber Company. Corporate history of Alberni Valley lumber companies. Bloedel Stewart and Welch had aggressive policy of acquiring timber. BSW merged with H.R. MacMillan Export Company in 1951. Built pulp mill at Port Alberni in 1947. Bloedel began working in a sawmill in 1922. Changes in milling, 1922-52. Export markets. The Bainbridge Lumber Company near Port Alberni. (End of interview)

R.D. Merrill interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): R.D. Merrill : timber investment and logging in British Columbia PERIOD COVERED: 1898-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: R.D. Merrill to the west coast from Michigan in 1898. Merrill family timber holdings in B.C. Opening logging operations on Vancouver Island and on the lower coast, Menzies Bay, Theodosia Arm. Various timber interests of the Merrill family in B.C. Corporate setup of Merrill Ring and Moore, and Merrill Ring and Wilson. Anecdote about inspecting timber near Campbell River, 1898. The value of holding timber land. Merrill's brother Tom to B.C. in 1880s. (end of interview). The voice of Prentice Bloedel is also heard.

Charles R. Mills interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles R. Mills : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1915-1917 PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1917 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-10-25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Worked on forestry data collection in the Dominion Railway Belt in B.C., 1913-14. Graduated in forestry from University of Toronto and joined B.C. Forest Branch, 1915. The Forest Branch office in Tete Jaune Cache, 1915. The story of starvation flats. More on the Forest Branch facilities in Tete Jaune. Mills was District Forester in Kamloops, 1917. Forest rangers in the Kamloops forest district. The work of the district forester. Forest fire protection. Fire fighting pumps. Left B.C. Forest Branch in 1917. The history of Tete Jaune. TRACK 2: Forest surveys in the Dominion Railway Belt;, 1910-14. Some personnel of the Dominion Forest Service, 1910-14. Members of Mills graduating class, 1915. Dean B.E. Fernow and the staff of the University of Toronto Faculty of Forestry. Mills current (1960) manager of the Ontario Forest Industries Association. Conditions in logging camps, 1912. (End of interview)

J.M. Gibson interview

CALL NUMBER: T1875:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Dr. J.M. Gibson : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1920-1927 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1927 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-10-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dr. J.M. Gibson joined the B.C. Forest Branch, 1920. Gibson works for the Nelson Forest District. Rangers in the Nelson District. Getting around the Nelson District. Problems of fighting forest fires. Preliminary cruising in the West Kootenay region. Moved to East Kootenay region, 1921. Rangers in the East Kootenay area. Timber cruising. TRACK 2: Sawmilling operations in the East Kootenays, 1921. Cruising in the extreme southeast. Building timber flumes. Tenure of various timber lands in the East Kootenay area. Gibson becomes District Forester in Prince George, 1923. Rangers and mills in the central Interior region, 1925. CALL NUMBER: T1875:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Dr. J.M. Gibson : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1920-1929 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1929 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-10-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of a discussion of the sawmills in the central Interior region, 1925. Comments on union organization in the Cranbrook area. More on sawmills in the central Interior area, especially east of Prince George. Detailed discussion of the Winton interests in the sawmill at Giscome. More on the mills east of Prince George. Problems of a District Forester: forest fires and collecting stumpage and royalty. Small water-powered sawmill operating at Fort St. James, 1924. TRACK 2: Story of Sir John Pitca, a knighted Estonian who settled near Fort St. James. Gibson becomes Assistant Forester in charge of forest protection, 1927-29. Returned to New Brunswick to teach at UNB in 1929. (End of interview)

Ray Elford interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Ray Elford : Shawnigan Lake Lumber Company, 1897-1920 PERIOD COVERED: 1897-1922 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-09-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born 1880. Began to work for his family's lumber company near Shawnigan Lake about 1897. Costs of land and timber from the E&N Railway. Oxen versus horses for logging. Wages. Shawnigan Lake Lumber Company. Marketing lumber in Victoria and elsewhere. Supplied flag poles for Parliament Buildings and Beacon Hill. The mill at Youbou described, 1920. Anecdotes about working in coastal mills. TRACK 2: Establishing a small mill near Princeton. Milling in the Princeton area. Camp conditions at Shawnigan Lake, 1900. Efforts to unionize labour at Shawnigan Lumber Company, 1914. The introduction of locomotives. (End of interview)

R.J. Filberg interview

CALL NUMBER: T1873:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert J. Filberg : Comox Logging and Railway Company (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1950 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-06-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Pulp wood experiment conducted in mid-1940s for better understanding of waste wood. Ad hoc arrangements between Filberg, Harold Foley and the Coalition government on this experiment. Led to the building of Duncan Bay pulp mill. Role of John Hart. Working conditions in logging camps in about 1907-10. Wages. Railroad construction. The high calibre of labour in the logging industry prior to WW II. Changes in the kinds of timber logged, 1910-60. TRACK 2: Problems of forest fires and accidents. Poor economic conditions in the forest industry, 1907-40. Introduction of large-scale truck logging after 1937. Systems of cable logging. Filberg born in Sweden, 1892. Came to B.C. from the United States in 1909. Began work for Comox Logging and Railway Company, 1909. Laying out logging railways in the Comox Valley. Filberg worked briefly near Golden, B.C., laying out logging railway. Columbia River Lumber Company, Golden. CALL NUMBER: T1873:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert J. Filberg : Comox Logging and Railway Company (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1907-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-06-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Logging railway near Golden, B.C. The connection between Comox Logging and Railway Company and Canadian Western Lumber Company (Fraser Mills). Filberg's early logging experiences in Washington State. Old logging methods: skid roads, fore and aft roads, ground yarding. The development of logging in the Comox Valley. Expansion into the Ladysmith area with logging trucks, 1937. (End of interview)

Dean Kalman Roller interview

CALL NUMBER: T1872:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Kalman Roller : the flight from Hungary of Sopron University, 1956 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-04-28 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dean Kalman Roller of the Sopron University School of Forestry explains the changes in Hungarian society which led up to the uprising of 1956. The history of Sopron University. Changes in university education in Hungary after the communist takeover in 1945. TRACK 2: More on the forestry education in Hungary after 1945. How the Sopron students became involved in the 1956 uprising. The flight of the people of Sopron to Austria, November 4, 1956.

CALL NUMBER: T1872:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Kalman Roller : the flight from Hungary of Sopron University, 1956 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1956-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-04-28 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The flight of the people of Sopron to the Austrian border, November 4, 1956. Conditions for the refugees in Austria. Reassembling the Forestry school in Austria. Making contact with the Canadian government. The role of Immigration Minister Jack Pickersgill. The decision to go to British Columbia. (End of interview)

Reginald V. Stuart interview

CALL NUMBER: T1871:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Reginald V. Stuart : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1914-1927 (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1927 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Arrived in Vancouver in 1910 from Golden. Worked for Robert Filberg at Golden, 1919. Description of Vancouver in 1910. Clearing land in Vancouver. Stuart's early work history. Went to work at Powell River in 1911. Stuart enumerates the major logging companies on the South Coast and on Vancouver Island. Logging methods and technology in 1911. Wages and working conditions. Woods jobs. Stuart's work as accountant and scaler. TRACK 2: Forestry officials prior to the formation of the B.C. Forest Branch. Logging methods. The establishment of the B.C. Forest Branch under H.R. MacMillan in 1912. Stuart joined Forest Branch in 1914. Attempted political interference with the operation of the Forest Branch. Resistance to the ideas of forest management. Stuart's territory as a ranger. CALL NUMBER: T1871:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Reginald V. Stuart : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1914-1927 (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1914-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Anecdotes about Stuart's days as a ranger along the lower coast. Story of the resale of Hastings sawmill timber lease. Economic factors in the development of the forest industry. The low price of timber. Stuart worked for the Forest Branch, 1914-27. Reminiscences of the Chief Foresters: H.R. MacMillan, Martin Grainger, P.Z. Caverhill. TRACK 2: More on the career of M.A. Grainger. Comments on P.Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester in 1920s and 1930s. Stuart becomes manager of the Loggers Association, 1927. Public relations problems of the Forest Branch, 1920s. The first use of aircraft by the Forest Branch, 1917. Early air crashes near Vancouver. The first use of radios by the Forest Branch, 1920. Favourable comments on T.D. Pattullo. (End of interview)

George S. Allen interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): George S. Allen : the Sopron School of Forestry at UBC, 1957-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1956-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-07 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The story of mass immigration to Canada of the Sopron University School of Forestry, Hungary. Problems and logistics of the move. The condition of the refugees in Austria. Relocation at Powell River. Absorbing the Sopron School as part of UBC Faculty of Forestry. TRACK 2: Job placement for Sopron graduates. (End of interview)

Harold S. Foley interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Harold S. Foley : the Sopron University Forestry School in B.C., 1957-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1956-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Harold Foley tells of the decision to aid the Sopron University School of Forestry (from Hungary) to establish itself in British Columbia, 1956-57. (End of interview);

Fred McNeil interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Fred McNeil : the Sopron University School of Forestry in B.C., 1957-60 PERIOD COVERED: 1956-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1960-01-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The story of the mass immigration to the Sopron University School of Forestry in Vancouver (UBC) in 1956-57. The roles of the Canadian government, UBC, and Harold Foley of the Powell River Company. Problems of establishment in Canada. Adjustment problems. The group established at a Powell River Company camp near Powell River. TRACK 2: More on adjustment problems. Establishing the Sopron University Forestry School at UBC. (End of interview)

C.S. Cowan interview

CALL NUMBER: T1867:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : the B.C. Forest Branch and its Chief Forester, 1914-1937 PERIOD COVERED: 1914-1937 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Joined B.C. Forest Branch, 1914. Was Forest Assistant in Vancouver District. Anecdote about trespassers. George McKay, first District Forester in Vancouver District. W.J. Van Dusen, the next District Forester in Vancouver. Anecdote about meeting H.R. MacMillan by coincidence in London. Had worked for Canadian Commission of Conservation prior to 1914. Early impressions of H.R. MacMillan. Reconnaissance surveys of timbered land for the Commission of Conservation and the Forest Branch. Anecdotes about woods work. Anecdotes about Martin A. Grainger. TRACK 2: More anecdotes about Grainger as Chief Forester, 1916-20. Administration in the early Forest Branch. Setting the stumpage and royalty levels. More comments on Grainger. Grainger quits Forest Branch to represent timber owners. Peter Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester, 1920-37. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : the B.C. Forest Branch, CFP (Nimpkish) and Weyerhauser, 1920s PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Peter Z. Caverhill, Chief Forester from 1920 to 1937 [1935]. Cowan was District Forester in Vancouver until 1926. Problems of fire control and slash control. Fire prevention. Development of fire fighting equipment. TRACK 2: More on fire fighting equipment. Left Forest Branch in 1926 and went to work for Canadian Forest Products at Beaver Cove. Problems with establishing pulp and saw mills at Beaver Cove. How the directors of International Harvester became the owners of the Nimpkish Valley timber. Cowan plans a logging development for Cyrus McCormack in the Nimpkish Valley. Went to Washington to work for Weyerhauser in 1927. Forest fire protection in Washington State. New fire fighting equipment. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : forest fire protection PERIOD COVERED: 1927-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Cowan talks about the development of new fire fighting equipment in Washington State. Changes in loggers attitudes towards fire. Developing fire protection practices. Orchard comments that B.C. generally follows developments in the U.S.A. More on fire fighting. TRACK 2: Anecdotes about the Canadian Armed forces. Stories about M.A. Grainger. Logging practices and changes. Logging and loading system. Application of tractors and early moving equipment to logging. Early logging trucks. CALL NUMBER: T1867:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles S. Cowan : logging methods PERIOD COVERED: 1880-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-12-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Evolution of logging methods, equipment and technology. (End of interview)

Robert E. (Bob) Allen interview

CALL NUMBER: T1866:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert E. Allen : the West Kootenays in the 1890s PERIOD COVERED: 1877-1896 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-24 & 25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in Nevada in 1877. To Spokane in 1880. Father a homesteader in Washington and later in the mining industry in Idaho. Family to the Slocan region in 1892. Trip from Kellogg, Idaho, to Nakusp, New Denver, Three Forks and Sandon. Hauling ore by pack trains. Jobs in the Sandon-New Denver area. Camp conditions. Helped father with mail contract, 1893. TRACK 2: Traveling in the West Kootenay region: Rossland, Nelson and the Slocan Valley. Adventures on a trip from Nelson to Three Forks via Kaslo. Allen has mail contract from Nakusp to the Slocan mines, 1893. Became packer for the mines. Allen in the transportation business in Sandon and Slocan City. CALL NUMBER: T1866:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert E. Allen : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1912-1917 PERIOD COVERED: 1896-1917 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-24 & 25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Sold out in Slocan City in 1906. Married in 1897. Story of his marriage and honeymoon. Lived in Slocan City, 1896-1910. Became a bush foreman, 1906. Sawmills in the West Kootenays. Flood on Arrow Lakes in 1907. Woods and packing jobs. Became road foreman in 1908 at Slocan City and Burton. Incident when Allen fired Sid Leary who was later Minister of Public Works for not working hard enough on road construction. TRACK 2: Political patronage in Public Works road crews. Allen got a job as a fire warden through the influence of William Hunter a Conservative back-bencher, 1911. Becomes divisional fire warden at Revelstoke in 1912. Traveling around his division. R.E. Benedict and John Lafon brought in from U.S. Forest Service to organize new B.C. Forest Branch, 1912. Allen becomes District Forester in Hazelton, 1913. Becomes head of amalgamated Prince Rupert Forest District, 1917. Staff in the Hazelton Forest District. CALL NUMBER: T1866:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert E. Allen : District Forester and mill operator, 1913-1926 PERIOD COVERED: 1913-1926 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-24 & 25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The Hazelton Forest District, 1913-17. Forest Rangers. Repetition of some earlier material about the Slocan mines. Becomes District Forester in Prince Rupert in 1917. Stories about M.A. Grainger, the second Chief Forester. Anecdote about Grainger's flat feet and his moccasins. Mrs. Grainger. Quit Forest Branch to go into sawmill business, 1919. TRACK 2: Anecdotes about Forest Branch personnel. In sawmill business, 1919-26. Hanall mill described. Working conditions in Hanall. Buys into a mill at Vanarsdol in 1925. Sawmills along the CNR line. The production of railway ties. CALL NUMBER: T1866:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Robert E. Allen : the B.C. Forest Branch, 1913-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-24 & 25 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Tie production along the Skeena section of the CNR. Rejoined B.C. Forest Branch in 1926 as District Forester at Prince Rupert. Allen investigated after the change of government in 1928 but not fired. Allen non-political while employed by B.C.F.S. District Forester in Prince Rupert, 1926-30. Procedures for timber sales. Became District Forester at Kamloops, 1930-32. Became District Forester in Nelson, 1932. Squabbles over Forest Branch vehicles. TRACK 2: Allen was District Forester in Nelson, 1932-45. Retired in 1945. Staff of the Nelson Forest District. Staff. Fire a major problem in Nelson District. Dispute over who would be District Forester in Kamloops, 1940. Auction bidding for timber. Forest fires in the Nelson District. Expresses satisfaction with his Forest Branch career. Salaries for District Foresters. (End of interview)

Frederick P. Burden interview

CALL NUMBER: T1865:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Frederick P. Burden : British Columbia land surveyor, 1902-1924 PERIOD COVERED: 1874-1924 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in New Brunswick in 1874. Working on a log drive in New Brunswick in 1880s. Taught for a time in New Brunswick. Graduated from UNB in 1900. Was good friends with A.H. Green, later a prominent B.C. surveyor. Comments on his days at UNB. Came to Nelson, B.C. in 1901. Became a B.C. land surveyor in 1902. Established the surveying firm of Green Brothers and Burden. Surveyed land near Fort George, 1910. Was a surveyor in Prince George, 1910-28. TRACK 2: Description of Fort George, ca. 1910. Wages and working conditions for survey crews. Railway boom in 1914. Construction on the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway. Mills in the Fort George area. Flu epidemic of 1919. Burden is Conservative candidate in provincial election of 1924. CALL NUMBER: T1865:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Frederick P. Burden : Prince George, 1910-1931 PERIOD COVERED: 1885-1931 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Burden defeated in the 1924 provincial election by Harry Perry. Suspicious circumstances surrounding absentee ballots. Plans to build a pulp mill at Prince George in the 1920s: the Fraser Syndicate. The murder of Robert Tyhurst of the Syndicate. Power investigations for the proposed pulp mill. Burden's Prince George properties. The collapse of the Fraser Syndicate, 1931. Return to the topic of river drives on the St. John River, NB. TRACK 2: Repeat of side one from the end of the Robert Tyhurst story. River drives in New Brunswick. Odd dealings relating to Fort George Indian Reserve. Boats on the Fraser River. CALL NUMBER: T1865:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Frederick P. Burden : MLA and Minister of Lands PERIOD COVERED: 1910-1942 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: River boats on the Fraser and Nechako Rivers, 1911-14. Stories about Billy Seymour, local character and chainman for Burden. Running the Peace River with Billy Seymour. Billy Seymour's death.Consideration of potential power projects in the Central Interior. TRACK 2: Real estate and business dealings in early Prince George involving GTP Railway, George Hammond, Morley Phillips, Darcy Scott and others. Elected to B.C. Legislature in 1928. Becomes Agent-General in London, 1931-34. Orchard relates another anecdote told to him by Burden relating to his brief expulsion from UNB. (End of interview)

William McMahon interview

CALL NUMBER: T1864:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): William McMahon : Canfor Vice-President and general manager (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1917-1955 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: McMahon's personal background. Worked at Anyox, 1917. Came to B.C. to stay in 1921. Work for the Capilano Lumber Company. Discussion of the Japanese timber market. The Capilano Timber Company mill. TRACK 2: Work in mills in the 1930s. Eburne Mills. The Pick-Prentice-Bentley group. The expansion of Canadian Forest Products in the early 1940s. Corporate history of the development of Canadian Forest Products.

CALL NUMBER: T1864:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): William McMillan : Canfor Vice-President and general manager (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1940-1955 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-10-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of the development of Canadian Forest Products. Discussion of plywood technology. More CFP corporate history. Changes in working conditions for survey crews. (End of interview)

A.S. Nicholson interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A.S. Nicholson : the British Columbia forest industry, 1903-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1903-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-09-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Nicholson to Cranbrook from Ontario in 1903. The formation of Cranbrook Sash and Door Company, 1904. Sold out and returned to Ontario, 1906. Returned to B.C. in 1919. Bought some timber from H.R. MacMillan. Comments about various business deals. TRACK 2: Comments on various East Kootenay sawmills (Indistinct.) Nicholson was a timber comptroller during WW II. Business dealings (Indistinct.) Story of the formation of H.R. MacMillan Export Co., 1919. More on mills in the East Kootenays region. (Recording becomes very indistinct.)

Joe Jordan interview

CALL NUMBER: T1862:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Jordan : Cowichan Valley logger (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1883-1959 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-05-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Jordan describes his career as a logger. Little detail and poor sound quality.;

CALL NUMBER: T1862:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Joe Jordan : Cowichan Valley logger (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1883-1961 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1959-05-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Jordan describes his career as a logger. Little detail and poor sound quality.;

Charles and Diana Marston interview

CALL NUMBER: T1861:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles O. Marston : the early B.C. forest branch, 1913-1916 PERIOD COVERED: 1891-1919 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-12-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family background in New England from 1638. Marston born 1891. The Biltmore School of Forestry, North Carolina. Details about the Biltmore school. Dr. Carl A. Schenck as the head of the school. Marston moves to Oregon, 1912. Began work for CPR Lands Department in East Kootenays. Joined B.C. Forest Branch in 1913. Timber cruising. TRACK 2: Traveling by B.C. Forest Service boat on the coast. Victoria office of the Forest Branch. Field work for the Forest Branch, 1914. Clo-oose land speculation. Forest Branch work, 1913-16. Anti-American sentiment causes Marston to leave Forest Branch. Worked for CPR in East Kootenays, 1916-17. Worked for H.R. MacMillan. Worked on aeronautical spruce supply in later years of World War I. CALL NUMBER: T1861:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Charles O. Marston : a forester in B.C., 1913-1925 PERIOD COVERED: 1913-1925 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1958-12-23 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Aeroplane spruce supply during World War I. Worked for Canadian Puget Sound Lumber and Timber Co. after World War I, 1919-25. Was an officer of the One Big Union, 1919. Was a logger at Alice Arm. Logging accidents and deaths. OBU organization on northern Vancouver Island. Improvements in working conditions. Traveling the coast on the Union Steamship Co. Mrs. Marston: Worked as an assistant to her husband during WW I; description of native peoples' way of life on west coast of Vancouver Island. TRACK 2: Potlatches briefly described. Crabs and what meat consumed. (End of interview)

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