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Clifford Eagle interview

RECORDED: Lac la Hache (B.C.), 1983-11-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Childhood spent around Dog Creek, Alkali Lake, and 150 Mile House. Made money "chasing" coyotes with horses. Ranched and trapped in the Lac La Hache area. Noted for "man-hunting" skills. Details of tracking for lost and dead men. Guided for Ted Ogden and Percy Hamilton. His two guiding areas were Lac La Hache and Crooked Lake. Advertising. Cougar dogs. Moose populations. "Reading bear" story. TRACK 2: Good cooking an important aspect. Operational aspects. Used Indian guides. Wolves and [bounty?]. Other outfitters: Buster Hamilton, Herbie McNeil. Ceased guiding in 1969 or 1970.

Floyd Smith interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Had class A guide's license for 55 years, from 1924 to 1979. On the trail since 1918. Dad, Carl, had outfit in Blairmore; drove Golden Gate stage in Yellowstone Park, 1895 to 1900. Crowsnest area; hunted Castle River, Flathead and Elk Valley. Nordstrom Brothers, Cutch Charlie. Trailed over south Kootenay Pass. Mike Baher. Hot springs in Elk Valley. Areas hunted. Crowsnest background, Frenchie, Charlie (Chink) and Jim Riviere, Buckhorn ranch sold. Guided west of Turner Valley. Started guiding in Banff area for Claude Brewster, 1945. Others mentioned, Alvin Gwyne, Soapy Smith, Art Cartledge. Stoney Indians: rented their horses, good guides for elk, moose, etc. Trophy heads. Yoho Park horse concession with Johnny Boychuk, 1950 to 1954. Summer operation at Assiniboine/Marvel Lake in later years. Some packing for geological surveys, forestry lookouts. Southern Rockies name: Johnny Musgrove, Bert Rigall, Charlie hunter. Photo/lecture tours. Wife, Lillian cooked at Lake Louise, Lake O'Hara, etc. TRACK 2: Hollywood movie work mentioned. Guided for Fred Brewster in Jasper, 1948-49. Tom Vinson. Floyd covered much of Rockies from US border to north of Jasper.; Guided some big name clients. Prices and costs noted. Some reflections on pioneering horse use.

Andy Russell interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0043.1 RECORDED: Millarville (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grew up with a passion for reading, the mountains and horses. Bert Rigall, international reputation, taught Andy guiding, childhood accident, started in 1907, operated out of Waterton Park, 1910. Wilderness summer trips, fifty horses, covered from Flathead Valley to Kananaskis. Major five month trip, Fort Steele to Pine Pass in 1911. Guides license obtained in 1936. Guiding territory in BC was lower Flathead Valley and east tributaries, 1946 to 1960. Used local BC guides. Selective hunting for bighorn sheep. Providing a service. High international outfitters rating. Frank Dvorak. Exclusive outfitting rights in Waterton Park, 110 horses. Recollections and perceptions of grizzly. TRACK 2: Guided famous hunting writers. Wilderness photography. Exposure/experience with big game, horses. Snowstorm problems. Close calls climbing. His film "Grizzly Country": lecture tour for 11 years, making it. Career thoughts. Description of Frenchie Riviere; origins, trailed horses to Fort St. John.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0043.2 RECORDED: Millarville (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: Frenchie Riviere (continued). Jim Riviere, George Gladstone's stream crossing story. Crowsnest outfits; Frank Dvorak, Martin and Mike Baher, Vensel Dvorak. Leo Rutledge. Recollections of recent conservation battle with oil companies.

Felix Plante interview

RECORDED: Entrance (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mark Truxler and Carl Lugar worked for him. Average trip was 30 to 49 days. Nine days travel one-way. George Hargreaves buried at Sheep Creek. Smoky River ford at Clarke's Crossing. Large caribou herds. $125.00 license allowed seven trophies, $25.00 per day cost. Tips better than wages. Abundant game meant easy hunting. Successful one-legged hunter and a $1,000 tip. A problem 300 pound 'chesterfield' saddle. Worked for Fred Brewster. Camp innovations; tents, cook stoves, heaters, folding tables. Family moved to mountains in 1914 and trapped on Berland River. Tracking a deer backwards. Forestry work circa 1915 to 1920. TRACK 2: Initially guided for Fred Brewster. Tim Vinson. Abe Rimmer. Guide had to cook on summer dude trips. Early Jasper outfits noted. Park guides license cost $2.50; Alberta one was $5.00. Art Allen. Len Jeck. Started own outfit on hunter's grubstake circa 1936. Summer trips used 60 horses. Adams and Henry Joachim. Retired at age 75. Home made panniers. Earl Anderson and tin panniers. Gunshot accident became unfortunate fatality. Unarmed encounter with huge grizzly.

Eugene Merrill interview

RECORDED: Edson (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Early trapping and moose hunting in the Peace River region. Local guides names. Worked for Stan Clark and Jack Hargreaves in the Jasper area, circa 1938. Art and Ken Allen were head guides. Other Jasper outfits in the 1940s noted. Tips given on summer and fall trips. Pat Smith, Ed and Frank Moberly. Cooks. Hargreaves' area was Sulphur River; trailed in from Devona. Red Ilee. Hunter's death recounted; taking out the body, etc. Worked for Red Creighton's outfit after WWII. Outfitting summer climbing trips, usually 14 days. TRACK 2: Larry McGuire. Transferred into pack troop at Prince George during WWII; specialized horsemen, packed mountain fighters for manoeuvers in mountain parks. Gene was a farrier. A 'unique' discharge. Wife cooked for various outfitters. Various wages for summer and fall trips. Guiding equipment. Fish story regarding Jack Hargreaves. Frank Burstrom and disappearing elk horns story.

Pete Lum interview

RECORDED: Premier Lake (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: His beginnings: Kettle Valley to Fort Steele. Art Nicol's outfitting operation. One of the first in the Kootenays. Pete started wrangling. Originally used teepees. Winter and summer work. Collecting mountain goat for New York zoo. Other region guides; Jimmy White, Charley Stevens, A.B. Fenwick. Brother, George, helped guide. Trapping and other work. Summer dude rides at Lake Louise, 1929 to 1939; trailed horses in from Fort Steele. Various trails/routes used at Lake Louise. Hunters and guides fees. Designated hunting territories, circa 1948. Doyle Reay. Operated outfit out of Premier Lake after WW II until retirement at age 80. Gold mining at Wild Horse Creek in 1925. Father had general store at Fort Steele. TRACK 2: Other work done. Packed for mining exploration in Lardeau area circa 1937. Names of other Kootenay guides.

Rex Logan interview

RECORDED: Sundre (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dad and Rex (1939) worked for Brewster's Banff outfit. Art Cartlege. Guy Thomas Cooked. Guided for Stan Kitchen in Jasper, circa 1944. Sold horses to miners in towns between Sundre and Jasper. Tom Vinson. Canol Project, 1943. Some 1940s outfitters; Jerry Verhaege, Del Wing, Eddy Grabiec, Stewart Kidd, Ravio. Old trails and forestry telephone wire. Worked 1944 to 1948 in Jasper. Some Jasper outfits. Hunting territories north of Jasper Park. Politics/regulations. Most hunting trips lasted a month. Summer trips were easier but paid less. Tourist rides. Some on Columbia Icefields with sharp-shod horses. Alaska Highway work. Tom Wilde had major contract on Canol Road and employed Jasper-Banff guides and wranglers at $7 to $9 per day. Had hunting territory in Yukon, 1965 to 1979. TRACK 2: Packing for oil company surveys (1950s) was profitable and covered all east slope areas up to Grand Prairie. Northern trails were Indian trails. Various aspects/logistics of survey trips. Wife cooked. Jim Simpson. Alvin Gwyne. Soapy Smith. Jeff Wilson. Jack Brewster. Red Creighton. Leo Rutledge, Ray Legace, Ray, Vern and Bill Mustard. Frank and Owen Philipps. Walter Nixon. Guy Thomas. Hersch Neighor. Stan Carr. Larry McGuire. Chuck Chesser. Len Jeck. Grizzly attack mentioned. Trophy heads.

Max Hoover interview

RECORDED: Nanaimo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Guided in Jasper/Robson region between 1925 and 1931. First wrangled for Stan Kitchen. Guides' regulations and responsibilities. Preparation of capes, horse tending. Various hunting trips and durations. Guides paid $10.00 per day. Wounded game. Excellent female hunter remembered. A typical four-hunter party, arrangement and logistics. Murray Cochrane. TRACK 2: Newspaper articles and reminiscences. Hargreaves outfit. Guided with Art and Ken Allen. Hargreaves outfit. Guided with Art and Ken Allen. Hargreaves family, Dick, Ray, George and Frank. Oliver Travers. George Korsvik. Walter Cochrane. Country in Mount Robson region noted. Curly Phillips. Jasper/Lake Louise summer trips for Brewster. Chuck Chesser.

William Harrison interview

RECORDED: Blind Bay (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Outfitted climbing camps for Canadian Alpine Club for over 30 years. Various other climbing parties outfitted. Some camp locations. Swiss climbing guides noted. Conrad Kain had own outfit. Other climbers. Description of topographic survey work, 1923 to 1925, under Harris and Bridgeland. Smithsonian geological expedition (Walcott) in southern Rockies. Started as wrangler, circa 1916, for Walter Nixon. CPR dude trips to Lake of the Hanging Glacier. Supplied prospectors/mines in Purcell Mountains. Guiding territory was upper Kootenay Valley. Madeleine Turner. Jim Boyce. Curly Phillips. Hired local men. Freighting work around Radium Hot Springs. Fire warden for Palliser/Ross rivers area. Packing on Big Bend Highway survey, 1928. Columbia Valley trail. High construction during the Depression. TRACK 2: Locations on west slopes of Rockies. Alpine Club camps. Some backcountry dangers. Sold horse outfit in 1978. Over sixty years of horse work in the mountains. Previous tape recording at Archives of Canadian Rockies, Banff.

Max Ebert interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.1 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discussion on placer gold mining at Wildhorse Creek; theory of Lost Lemon Mine; Bull River; hydraulic mining, bottle of gold. Ran air locomotive in Michel coal mines. Description of early outfitter, Billie Boivin. Secret of the diamond hitch. Started wrangling circa 1920 to 1921. Billie Boivin railroading, how he lost his arm, eleven-horse string, dangerous Eastman-Kodak trip. Johnny Lewis. Kettering party, circa 1922. TRACK 2: Early local guides; Nordstrom brothers, Norbou brothers, Chancy Smith. Elk Valley game reserve. Game wardens. Guide's license in 1922. Also guided for Earl McGuiness and Martin Baher. Sheep psychology. Some hunting stories. Browning party. Record goat heads from Berry Creek. Martina and Mike Baher had outfits. Joe Krivensky.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.2 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: Joe Krivensky, continued. Elk Valley hot springs. Alex Clarkson cooked. Circus exploits. Grizzly and black bear stories. Topographical names. Crossbreed oddity. Guided until about 1948.

John Boychuk interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Started in early 1930s; worked for Pat Brewster, Brewster Transport, and Claude Brewster. Grew up in Cypress Hills. Various jobs in Banff from 1927. Pat Brewster outfit; Assiniboine camp, 200 head of horses, short dude trips. Horse assisted hiking trips in Larch Valley, Skoki. A 36-day sightseeing trip from Kananaskis Lakes to Lake Louise. Worked with Harvey Clark, Lance Reigher, Jim Moore, after WWII. Other outfits; Ray Legace, George Harris. One guiding territory was Simpson River; then Panther-Clearwater areas used. Bought horses from Stoney Indians. Yoho Park years and various horse concessions, circa 1948 to 1968. Floyd Smith was early partner. Regulation eventually restricted operation. Packed for Alpine Club in Yoho Park. TRACK 2: Some guides, etc.: Rex Logan, Alvin Gwynne, Ike Mills, Bagley brothers, Jim Burroughs, Brewster's 60th anniversary reunion. Slim Hogan managed the Ya Ha Tinda. Operating pony stable at Canmore.

Pete Bifano interview

RECORDED: Sundre (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Rex Logan sold horses to miners in Nordegg, Cadomin, etc. Albert Gooey guided for Peter McKillop in local area, Charley Siegfried. Ed Grabiec outfit. Peter worked with Grabiec, Ed Sherbic, Ken Thomson, Johnny Kosteniuk, Herb Blake, Nordegg. Had two strings and mainly worked north of the North Saskatchewan River; Coral, Job and Opabin Creeks. Description of Upper Macdonald watershed. Open hunting gave way to an abundance of outfits/competition. Ken Thomson. Later oil company trips; good pay, hard on the horses. Tough work and bad conditions in the Monkman area. Some favored hunting areas. Fossils. Old Indian Camp on the Bighorn River. Joe Bifano, father, outfitted until circa 1936-37. Used Indian guides from Bighorn Reservation. Packhorse killed by lightning on Sunset Pass, one drowned crossing Brazeau River; broken ribs. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Mathias Baher interview

RECORDED: Sparwood (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family arrived at Elk Valley in 1902. Worked in coal mines at Luscar, 1923. Two winters trapping in the NWT. Brother Martin, Joe Vlasak and Mathias started outfit, 1929. Early Elk Valley; outfitters/guides; Chancy Smith, Billy Boivin, Neil MacQuarrie, Charley Nordstrom. Hornaday/Phillips trip, 1905, one of the first sporting trips, employed Charlie Smith, Mac and John Narbou, Hugglestone; see "Campfires in the Canadian Rockies" (1906). Old Kootenay outfitters; Art Nichol, Peter Lum. Numerous outfits used the Bull River area. Mathias had 26 horses. Max Ebert. A local shooting incident. Harry Kylar cooked. TRACK 2: Description of guiding territory; Elk Valley, Fording River, Cadorna Creek. Handles two parties simultaneously. Start of Local Guiding Association, circa 1950. Accessing his territory. Trip Length. Cabins used for hunting and trapping. Alberta area: Buffalo Head Ranch. Alberta outfits using BC areas: Frank Philipps, Elk Lakes, Andy Russell, Flathead, Vensel Dvorak. Evolution of access, guiding and hunting pressures in the region. Record trophy heads obtained. Early motion pictures of hunting. His autobiography, "Life and Times of an Elk Valley Sourdough" discussed. Revised edition.

Bill Bagley interview

RECORDED: Ghost River (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Freighting supplies in Kananaskis Valley, winter 1931. George Pocaterra. Ray Patterson. Banff Park outfits used both east slopes and BC areas of the Rockies. Soapy Smith. Frank Philipps; hunted Elk Valley in the 1940s. First packing/wrangling was dude trips for Claude Brewster and Soapy Smith in 1936. Banff wardens noted. Travel and fire permits required. Foreman at Kananaskis Ranch after 1950. Worked for Bud Brewster's outfit out of Banff. 25 years of wintering horses in Ghost area. Size of Brewster's outfits. Johnny Boychuk. Jim Bagley. Trails in the 1930s were better than today. Some names; Rex Logan, Alvin Gwyn, Ollie Rasmussen, Jim Tegart, Albert Cooper, horse trip from Alberta to the Cariboo, 1935. Ollie Armstrong. TRACK 2: Various aspects of horse trips. Indians helped on short trips; not too dependable.

A. Jim Bagley interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Started with Kananaskis Ranch (Seebe), circa 1925 to 1931. Kananaskis Lakes; handles hydro surveys in the 1920s. Trips along the Continental Divide described. Kananaskis Ranch horsemen; Ray Legace, Bob Baptie, Chet Hogan, Bill Matthews. History on construction of Assiniboine Lodge, 1927. Worked for Strom/Assiniboine Lodge circa 1931 to 1936; packing wrangling, cooking ski guiding. Clientele during Depression years. TRACK 2: Walter Nixon's operation in the Kootenays. Spent some years in Windermere area. Worked clearing the Spray reservoir, circa 1939. One summer spent at Scotch Camp (Red Deer River) for warden service. A step from a grizzly. Roof blew off Assiniboine Lodge. Bill Bagley worked for Claude Brewster. Soapy Smith: ranch, outfitted Columbia Icefields trip; for Byron Harmon/Freeman, 1924. Alvin Gwyne, Art Cartledge, Pat Worthington. Frank Philipp's outfit. Joe Johnson. Mike Crosby.

Ken Allen interview

RECORDED: Kelowna (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Worked for Curly Phillips in 1924; market garden and tourist boating. Seventy-day climbing expedition to Columbia Icefields in 1927; first ascent record, Swiss guides. Mount Robson. Description of Donald "Curly" Phillips; death in avalanche, tourist boat operations in early 1930s. Packing and guiding. Indian guides. Jack Hargreaves. Red Creighton. Head guide psychology. Grande Cache. Ken and wife worked for Ray Hargreaves at Mount Robson. First ascent expedition to Mount Sir Alexander in 1929. broken ankle tended by Dr. Gilmour. Mr. Waffle. Finished guiding in 1939. Jasper warden service in early 1940s, then CNR work. Train accident in 1951 at Canoe River killed 22 people. Harry Phillips attacked by grizzly. TRACK 2: Grizzly attack continued. Medicine Lake and Maligne Lake tourist boat concession circa 1931 to 1933. Phillip's dude trap line, 1927. Many wives did the cooking on trips. Chuck Chesser. Slim Fry. George Korsvik. Oswald Svensen. Otto Brothers. Joe Saladana. Boundary survey work, 1938. General guiding duties. Fred Brewster. Building laundry for Jasper Park Lodge. Other names; Max Hoover, Larry McGuire, Frank Burstrom, Adam Joachim, Dave, Frank and Ed Moberly. Summer dude trips. River fords. Memories of American hunters.

Thomas Wilde interview

RECORDED: Rose Prairie (Alta.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: First packed in Glacier Park Montana, 1924 - 1926, for largest outfit in North America, Bar X Six. 1100 horses and mules. Originally started by Bill Brewster. Followed Brewster work to Jasper in 1928, a booming place for horse work. Warner Brothers movie at Maligne Lake. Wardens and transiting hunter. Two deaths by grizzlies. A big Indian camp on the Smoky River. Other trips and trails. Some outfitters around Jasper. Abe Reimmer, Chris Redland were packers for Jack Brewster. First work in Northern Rockies, Prophet River, in 1932. Old police trail route noted. Hudson's Bay traders. Murders at Trimble (Deadman's) Lake circa 1925. Wilde did major outfitting/packing contract on Canol Road/Pipeline and for army. Curly Phillips saddle. Author James Oliver Curwood had used it. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Madeline Turnor interview, 1983

RECORDED: Invermere (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family homesteaded in Columbia Valley in 1911. First pack trip 1916 with A. McCarthy. Alpine Club camps. Hunting in Assiniboine, 1919. Gibbon party photo in Diamond Hitch while working for Walter Nixon, 1923. Background on Nixon's outfit. CPR bungalows in Windermere, day trips and duties. Worked for Staples' dude ranch at Premier Lake (1927) for 30 years; S-Half Diamond. Train load of wealthy American girls. Trips: Whiteswan Lake, Sheep (Lussier) Creek, Top of the World. Shorter rides for junior girls. Various camps noted. Hunting trips started after the Depression; some guides and hunting areas mentioned. Purcell trips; Lake of the Hanging Glacier. Byron Harmon. Conrad Kain taught her how to pack. TRACK 2: Trail riders of the Canadian Rockies in Yoho, 1923. Walter Nixon. Trails above Invermere, Lake of Hanging Glacier, Toby Creek. Local outfitters; Tegart's, McKay's, Pete Lum, Bert Lowe, Dave Nixon. Other duties at Premier Lake. Dr. and Mrs. Stone's climbing accident of Mount Eon. Mr. and Mrs. Best. Other people. Some comparisons to modern day activities.

Mark and Agnes Truxler interview

RECORDED: Entrance (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mark and Agnes met working for Fred Brewster in 1927. Four day "Circle Trip" used to establish camps. Hughes and Kitchen outfit. Agnes and her sister were first female guides in Jasper Park. Mark stated in Banff in 1923 as a packer for A.O. Wheeler. Circle tour to Assiniboine. Change encounter with Bill Peyto. Wheeler's influence. Combined horse round-up with Jimmy Simpson. Agnes quit Brewster in 1930. Non-resident special hunting permit. Game decline after WWII. Bert Osborne from Wembley. Archie Clark, game warden, was a silent shadow. Critical differences between equipment and methods of Jasper and Banff outfits. TRACK 2: Worked for Roy and George Hargreaves. A prophetic shovel comment. Medicine-Maligne boats. Curly and Harry Phillips. Dad (Ed) Neighbor. Discussion of hunting party size and trip planning. Many Indian guides were Iroquois. Initial war restriction killed hunting season. Geological survey trips. Bill (Will) Mustard and Bill Harrison were Mountain Park outfitters. Other names; Digby Harris and Harry Miller, Otto Brothers, Stand Clark. Clark's cache. Curly and Harry Phillips and deaths.

Oliver Travers interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1984-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: First ever snowshoe trip from Jasper to Banff with Phil Higgeson in 1931. Won Banff winter carnival event. First trip in Jasper, 1925. Worked on park roads and telephone lines on Whirlpool and Snake Indian Rivers. Cooked for Stan Clark, 1926. Dude trips; good tips, triangle tour, fishing. Hargreaves' outfits. Deaths of George and Frank Hargreaves. Death aborted Daryl Zanuck's bear hunt in 1933. Trapping in 1927/28. Death Rapids on Columbia River. A long snowshoe trip. TRACK 2: Recollections of a guides' hunting trip with the Hargreaves near Mumm Creek. McDonald Meadows. A $100 Hollywood tip. Guides wages and hunting fees. North Boundary survey; packing gear and film for $3.60 a day. Bill Blackman guided out of Valemount. Hargreaves employees; Harvey Crate, Art and Ken Allen, Bob L'Estrange, Charley Blackman, Don Giles. Berg Lake; grave, dude trips, cabins and lodge. Tom Wilde. Some Northern Rockies outfitters. Jim Lamb, Ed and Frank Moberly. Quit guiding about 1934. Bedaux expedition.

Ken Thomson interview

RECORDED: Rocky Mountain House (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Trapped with Ray Mustard in 1939. Guided for Waddy Watson, Ed Sherbick, Ray Mustard. Most area outfitters focused on area south of Brazeau River. Outfitting surveys complemented hunting. Previously cooked and packed. Cold Lake military range, 1952. Survey work. Surveyors names. Northern Rockies outfitters; Jim Beattie, Leo Rutledge, Mel Kyllo. Ran big operation, three outfits, 100 horses, Ed Mackenzie and Ed Hitchings helped. Hunting parties, length, sheep main objective, Cariboo closed off. Outfitter requirements detailed (regulations). Some cooks and guides noted. Ray Simpson's green grizzly. Description of Brazeau/Job country, campsites, saddle horse. Good mountain sheep areas identified. TRACK 2: Elk. Pinto and Job (Wilson) Lake fish. Packed throughout the Rockies. 113 day geological party in Monkman area. Natural gas seeps. Sulphur springs. Trapping. Death on MacDonald Creek. A ton ten Mexican hunter. Backcountry curios; totem pole, elk antler pile, telephone line horns. Sold outfit in 1957. Son drowned on the Smoky River in 1952.

James Tegart interview

RECORDED: Brisco (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Arthur Tegart homesteaded at Windermere in 1886. Guided hunters in early 1900s. Guiding supplemented farm income. Bob and Buster continued family outfit after 1925. Jim Tegart stated about 1929; own outfit in 1943. Used wild horses in pack string for a total of forty. Areas hunted. Built trail in Squaw, Lodgepole, Marion Creeks, White River. Indian hunting trail from Kananaskis. Game, roads, and decline. Tegart Pass and Mountain. Jim Thompson guided. Tents reverted to cabins on Albert River, Tipperary Falls, Queen Mary Creek. Frequent fly-camping. Names of old time game wardens. Albertans hunted the Palliser. TRACK 2: Austrian hunters. Woman hunter, 69 years old. Lost supplies fording a river. Doreen cooked for most parties; an all day job. Daughters have cooked, sons did guiding. Old area outfitters; Jim and Gordon McKay, Upper Kootenay, Beaverfoot, Bill Harrison, Alpine Club. Big Bend Highway work. Banff/Jasper highway packing. Rode a horse to death. Hunted in the Purcell Mountains. One-armed hunter.

Chester Sands interview

RECORDED: Rocky Mountain House (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Clarence Sands homesteaded west of Rocky Mountain House. Started guiding/outfitting in 1919. One client made 24 trips. Forestry pack trails. Areas worked, Nordegg and Brazeau Rivers. Mid 1920s fishing trips to Pinto Lake. Blackstone River and Job Creek used for 1930s hunts. Main hunting areas between Northern Saskatchewan and Brazeau Rivers used. One of pioneer outfitters in the region. Chester Sands started wrangling in 1947 and guiding in 1950. Family operation; four sons helped guide. Present hunting areas in Coral and Job Creeks. Clarence outfitted until 1952. Present day hunts and game potential. Ken Thompson and Del Wing outfitted geological surveys in 1940s. Surveys were all summer long and also within national parks. Brazeau River; game moved into park, outfits used for park trail. Whisker Creek. Ray Mustard. Wilderness area. Old forestry telephone line and cabins, Nelson, Mons, Bighorn, etc. Sam Sands outfit. Myrtle Sands Raivio was first woman outfitter in Alberta, circa 1940s. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Leo Rutledge interview : [Sky, 1983]

RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Guiding in Northern Rockies started in 1920s. First guided for Stan Clark around 1932 on a 42-day hunt. Jim Ross was initial outfitter. Only wealthy American were clients. Gradually worked into outfitting. Guiding supplemented trapping revenue. Details of Curly Phillips' northern canoe trips; Rutledge managed sheep hunting portion. Harry Phillips. Northern Rockies hunting/outfitting expanded after WWII with resultant changes; shorter hunts, float planes, airstrips, poorer quality outfits. Background and rationale for inception of guiding territories in northern Rockies, 1961. TRACK 2: Guides association organized. Other politics of later guiding. Territory covered Prophet River. Indian trails and camps. Description of Tom Wilde. Topographic survey on Wapiti/Narraway Rivers, 1942. Surveys could kill camp meat. Hazard of river fords and fires. General discussion.

James Riviere interview

RECORDED: Twin Butte (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Some humourous occasions and pranks on the trail. Johnny Krokennock, guide. Three types of dudes. Preferred Texans. Bert Rigall was old-time outfitter. Used upper Oldman River. Dave Simpson. Father outfitted parties north of Jasper, late 1920s. Dude trips out of Waterton Park, 1929. Prince of Wales horse concessionaires; Jack Bevans, Morris Brothers, his brother Rankin, Pat Brewster, Dave Simpson. His guides; Harold Fisher, Rex French. Wife cooked on most trips. Fees and wages. Some hunting areas noted. One hunter, by the name of Dunn, brought his own outfit. Characteristics of grizzly bear. TRACK 2: Hibernating bear story. Carl and Floyd Smith. Very few outfits worked in Alberta's southwest corner. Getting started and maintaining business. Reasons for quitting guiding. Criticism of present-day game management.

Charles Doyle Reay interview

RECORDED: Jaffray (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Recollections of Pete Lum, old Kootenay outfitter. Anton Rosicky. Doyle Reay started on Bull River, 1938. Territories on the Bull River, ca. 1948. Handled two hunters, twenty-six horses. Camps and areas hunted. 1927 fire. CPR tote roads and logging camp at Tanglefoot, 1904 to 1927. Goat locations. Bull Valley one of the best overall game country. Donnaly Slide. Some more recent outfitters noted. Ron Cullen was his wrangler. Trophy hunting. Various American clients. Fees. Problems climbing for a goat. Wounded grizzly story. TRACK 2: Majority of clients were no problem. Details on preparing heads and capes for taxidermy. Strategy for stretching the hunt. Sheep herding between Picture Butte, Alberta and Crowsnest Pass in the early days. Sold outfit to Harry Riddell. Jimmy White and Art Nicol were the oldest guides in the region. Martin Baher guided in Elk Valley. John Dvorak worked in Flathead Valley. Others, Jim and Buster Tegart, Jim Thompson, Buster St. Elio. Comparing past and present game populations. Never advertised. His wife did the books and correspondence.

Owen Philipps interview

RECORDED: Cochrane (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Frank Philipps worked with Interprovincial Boundary Survey, also Brewster's. Started own outfit out of Banff in early 1920s. Banff was summer/fall base after 1923 moved to North Vancouver.; Summer fishing trips. Charlie Phillips (uncle), Alvin Gwyn helped guide. Areas: Palliser River, Royal Group. Some big name American and European clients. Characteristics of German hunters. Helpers: Tom McIvor, Phil Cook, Ray Legace. Philipps used to hire other outfits out of Banff. Wintered his horses at the "Corners". Owen Philipps's initial clients and hunts. Southern extent of hunting areas noted. Billy Boivin, one armed guide. TRACK 2: Used some CPR cabins in the Elk Valley. Used White and Bull Valleys in early years; also Cross and Palliser. Other outfitters; Nixon, Tegart, Bill Richardson. Magazine articles in the 1930s. Preparing capes for taxidermist Horace (Pop) Halloway. Wounded grizzly. Banff Park once included Kananaskis area. Memories of Bill Peyto. Some Vancouver corporate clients. Hunting publicity. Frank Philipps ended up with territory in Northern Rockies, early 1960s.

David Nixon interview

RECORDED: Wilmer (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Accounts of hunting grizzly. Snowbound escape from Ice River area via Wolverine Pass. Walter Nixon (father) started packing ore in Parson area, 1907. Was game warden during WWI, political appointment. Gordon Nixon took out survey parties. David started in 1932. Outfit called 2N, was family operation and was sold after WWII. Hunting on Simpson River for moose and grizzly, got three record heads. TRACK 2: Seven point elk. Upper Simpson River had "tame" elk. Built original trail in Simpson Valley. Sir George Simpson's copper tea kettle found. Nixon built a number of other trails. Bill Harrison, Roy McDonald were guides. Some dude trips for CPR resort at Windermere. Packing for Alpine Club camps. Lake of Hanging Glacier. Photo in ice cave. Survey work was good money, climbing parties less so. Packing for surveys on Big Bend Highway. Brother was among those drowned on Kinbasket Lake then. Bugaboos. Nixons helped Conrad Kain. Wintered horses on Police Meadows at Edgewater. Walter Nixon died in 1952.

Hersch Neighbor interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.1 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: A green kid's first trip wrangling in 1926. A cold forty day trip. Guided for 38 consecutive years. Included Jasper, Tete Jaune Cache, and Pink Mountain. Best game and horse country was ;north of Jasper. Territorial comparison. Curly Phillips was pioneering outfitter. Indians. Hunting territories overlapped at Kakwa (Porcupine) Lake. Various geographic names in Kakwa area / Sheep Pass meadows. Clark's crossing on Smoky River. Die-off of caribou. TRACK 2: Various trips in Jasper Park. Some Jasper outfitters. Brother, Rufe, started about 1918, later partner with Bert Wilkins. Description of Curly Phillips and operation. Ed 'Dad' Neighbor. Park guide badge 1921. Otto Brothers in Jasper. Magazine article. Family move with horses from Tete Jaune Cache to Pink Mountain in 1954. Outfitted from Pink Mountain for ten years. Description of his territory, rivers, game, trails. 1906 police trail noted. Eunice's (wife) involvement in operations. CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.2 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Stan Russell's death and burial on Big Shale Hill, 1951. Plaque mounted. George Hargreaves' death and grave. Shovel superstition. Details of bear attack on Harry Phillips at Berland River; on Jack Powell at Prophet River. Blood poisoning incident on dude trip to Kakwa Lake, 1936 or 1937. A lucky wilderness operation on his leg. Changes in outfitting over the years, tents, cooking, stoves and heating, lamps, pack boxes. Game pressure and conservation today. [TRACK 2: blank.]

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