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A view from the inside : [3 parts]

SUMMARY: Three parts of a radio program entitled "A View from the Inside", by Robert Cummings of Prince George radio station CJCI. The three parts focus on the history of Prince George and Barkerville.;

Agnes and Ray Campbell interview

RECORDED: Kelowna (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Bert Osborne was one of the first hunting outfitters in Wapiti District, late 1920s. Henry and Dave Joachim, Ed Stoney were some guides. Ed Moberly. Upper Canada College summer trips; Wembley to Mount Robson in 1936; 1937 trip detoured to Fraser River via Jarvis Creek and McGregor River. One of the largest summer outings - fifty people and eighty-six horses. Count Ignatieff was organizer. Canadian Geographical Jr. article, November 1936. Phillips Petroleum trip in 1940s: Mr. Knox, Angus Beaton. Carl Brooks started outfitting in 1936: summer trips to Kinuseo Falls, Porcupine; (Kakwa) Lake. Kakwa Falls. Route taken. Sherman Meadows. His death in plane crash at Kakwa Lake, 1945. Monkman Highway work, 1936 to 1939. Ted Chambers, Shorty McGuinness, Alex Monkman. Booklet on its history. Dud trips from Kinuseo Falls to Monkman Lake. Wife's work. Brooks outfit sold to Bert Dalgliesh in 1947. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Aileen Lonsdale interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Aileen Lonsdale was born in the Washington Territory and moved around all her childhood; moved to Wolf Creek in 1909. She describes what was happening in Wolf Creek when she moved there, including her father's stopping house; she describes her family, Renshaw, including her brothers and her father, Robert Haldane Renshaw; she describes the area; steel mining; locations of railway stations; Mile 52; Valemount; Mile 49; railway construction camps; a description of Tete Jaune; bootlegging and smuggling during prohibition; some anecdotes about what life was like; moving to McBride in 1914; a description of McBride and life there when she arrived. TRACK 2: Mrs. Lonsdale continues with a description and anecdotes about the Indians at Tete Jaune; she describes Tete Jaune Cache and the surrounding area; Tete Jaune Mary.

Angus McDonald interview

CALL NUMBER: T0414:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1965?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Angus McDonald was born in Carville, Washington, and moved to Alberta for wheat farming, and then to BC for cattle ranching. His father was Scottish and his mother was American; his father followed mining prospects all around BC. He describes how his family decided where to settle by describing various places in BC. He describes the CPR and the Hudson's Bay Company's monopoly of land. He describes how the bureaucracy of the Hudson's Bay caused them to transfer lands; spent a first winter at Strom, Alberta, went across the Yellowhead to Strathcona, South Edmonton, to buy horses; he discusses the horses that they had; they continued on to BC in 1907; he describes several characters on the trip; his siblings and family; several anecdotes about the 16-week trip; and several trails. TRACK 2: McDonald continues by describing his father; a story about a trapper; more about the trip; rafting; Swift Creek; Jasper House; more about the trip.

CALL NUMBER: T0414:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1965?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. McDonald continues discussing the journey; sights and anecdotes; the town of Tete Jaune Cache. Mr. McDonald talks about campsites up the Thompson River; Hell's Gate; trails in the area,; and his experiences on these trails. TRACK 2: Mr. McDonald discusses buying horses and land; ranching; Bridge Lake, 110 miles from Ashcroft, and life in the area.

Auction at Valemount

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: This tape captures the sounds of an auction at Valemount. A discussion of the auction and traveling auctioneers, both present and past, is included. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Between ourselves : The riverboys and the fur traders : [parts 1 & 2]

SUMMARY: "Between Ourselves" was a weekly series of hour-long radio programs that presented Canada to Canadians. It featured aspects of Canadian life in docudramas, plays, music, and interviews, originating fr;om different regions of Canada. The series ran from 1966 to 1979. "The Riverboys and the Fur Traders", presented in two parts, is the story of a river journey made in 1971 by the First Fort George Sco;ut Troop. The scouts were retracing the route followed by Simon Fraser in 1806, and (in part) by Alexander Mackenzie in 1793 -- from McLeod Lake to the Fraser via the Parsnip, Pack and McGregor Rivers;. The program combines excerpts from the journals of Mackenzie and Fraser with recordings made by Imbert Orchard during the course of the scouts' journey. The program also juxtaposes sounds from a var;iety of sources. Roy Brinson is heard as the voice of Simon Fraser, and Robert Clothier as Alexander Mackenzie.;

Boy Scout trip, James Creek

RECORDED: James Creek (B.C.), [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: This tape captures the sounds of a Boy Scout trip on James Creek in the Prince George area. Imbert Orchard interviews various scouts concerning their thoughts about the trip. TRACK 2: Sounds of a Boy Scout trip are continued. Included is a story about the English civil war, told around the campfire. Sounds along the river are continued.

Bruce Otto interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Bruce Otto discusses living in Jasper around 1909; he describes how he came there from Calgary; he offers several anecdotes; Tete Jaune; Jim Partridge who was a store owner; Valemount; a flood on the Fraser River; canoeing around the area; Louis Swift, a pioneer; the BC side of the Alberta/BC border; and Spiddle Creek. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Cariboo pioneers

SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Two short interviews with people of the Cariboo. (1) Mrs. Elizabeth Wendel, who came to the Cariboo in 1910, describes how she learned to ride and hunt, and recalls her first hunting experience of shooting a grizzly bear with a .22 rifle [ca. 8 minutes]. (2) The next interview is with an unnamed steamboat captain (born ca. 1874). In 1900, he was piloting steamboats for the Canadian National line between Victoria and Vancouver, and landed a new job running riverboats on the Fraser River between Soda Creek and Quesnel. After some blasting to clear rocks along the route, the service was extended to Prince George in 1909. Later on, two steamboats built by Foley, Welch and Stewart operated between Tete Jaune Cache and Prince George, south to Soda Creek, and up the Nechako to the site of Vanderhoof. He discusses the three companies running boats on the Upper Fraser: the Fort George Trading and Lumber Company; Foley, Welch and Stewart; and the BX (Barnard's Express) company. His account includes descriptions of the boat schedules and the boats themselves, which operated on the Fraser until 1920. The boats burned wood for fuel and had a crew of about twenty. Some discussion of passengers and freight carried. Stories about the packer Jean Caux, known as "Cataline". [ca. 17 minutes] (3) The final piece is an editorial by Willis about cowboy heroes on radio and television and in movies, as compared to the reality of being a cowboy. [ca. 4 minutes] [TRACK 2: blank.]

Charles Sumner Whitten interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1968 SUMMARY: TRACK 1 & 2: Mr. Charles Whitten describes the road from Resplendent to Tete Jeune Cache; the Foley, Welch and Stewart boats; a description of Tete Jeune; prohibition and bootlegging; railway work at Tete Jeune Cache; settling in McBride in 1914; the effects of World War I on the region.

Cora Mustard interview

RECORDED: Seba Beach (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Will Mustard (Cora's husband) born in Nebraska in 1892; worked for Otto Brothers in Jasper, 1917. Started family outfit at Mountain Park with father, Harvey, and brother, Ray, in 1920. Advertised in American magazines. Brazeau was main hunting area. Rented saddle horses to miners. Moved outfit to Jasper in 1928. Did summer trips. Guides: Jack Denson, Bill Berry, Berle Berry, wranglers. Vern Mustard road foreman on Banff/Jasper highway construction. Move to McBride in 1935. Trip with Model T Ford. Owner of Boston Red Sox was client. Work on roads during the war. Moved to Drayton Valley later. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Fannie Kinney interview

RECORDED: South Fort George (B.C.), 1981-09-30 SUMMARY: Fannie Kinney was born in Valley City, North Dakota on April 20, 1896, and received her teacher training at North Dakota Normal school. She taught at schools near Lansford, North Dakota before coming to B.C. She taught at: Fraser Flats, 1927-31 (8 miles north of Prince George); Tabor Creek, 1941-44; and at South Fort George Elementary until she retired in 1966. Mrs. Kinney recalls teaching near Prince George in early days. A "career" teacher, she describes the need for dedication, a love of children, and for strict discipline in teaching profession.

Frances and Lewis Knutson interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Lewis Knutson remembers trapping and prospecting in the Tete Jaune Cache area in the early twentieth century; coming to Thompson's Crossing in 1911 to trap; the Indians; prospecting; place names; trails; more on trapping and Indians. TRACK 2: Mr. Knutson continues discussing present land use; hunting; lumber; Jasper; fur markets; his marriage in 1927 and how they lived at Thompson Crossing. Then, Mrs. Francis Knutson talks about her background; coming to Tete Jaune Cache and her father, Mr. Frye, building a stopping house in Alberta in 1912. Finally she discusses Valemount.

Francis Martin interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1970 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Natural sounds and an interview, recorded by Imbert Orchard. (1) Water sounds, identified as "a small brook beside the road at Dome Creek." (2) "Birds at Dome Creek." (3) Mr. Francis Martin (who has lived in McBride, B.C., since 1961) discusses the construction and impact of the area's roads and highways; bridge construction; a landslide in 1961. He also talks about life in McBride, including: the role of the CNR in the area; sawmills and plywood mills; community life; more about the roads, and keeping them open in winter. (4) A woman (presumably Mrs. Martin) talks about life in McBride, and compares it to life in Quesnel and Smithers. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Freeman ("Friday") Lonsdale interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0013.1 RECORDED: Chase (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Burial of George Hargreaves on Sheep Creek. Description of area and trails near Sheep Pass. Used Alberta guides from Grand Cache. Eating porcupine. Guided for Jim Smith out of Snowshoe (Crescent Spur), 1926. Put in original trail up Morkill River. Trip to Jarvis Lakes via McGregor River. Fossils. Accident curtailed guiding in 1940. Jimmy Smith killed by horse in 19444. Homesteaded in 1924. Indian drying racks. TRACK 2: Caribou populations and decline. Came along Continental Divide. Grizzly stalked him. First camp and features on Morkill River and Forget-Me-Not Creek. Mustards worked out of McBride. Hookers from Dome Creek. Account of sixty-five day collecting trip for Peabody Museum, 1931. Specimens, people, taxidermist, areas, 52 horses.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0013.2 RECORDED: Chase (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Big Shale Hill. Boundary trail. Fishing at Kakwa (Porcupine) Falls. Usually at lunch in the saddle. A grizzly prank. Duration of most trips. Almost snowbound on the Divide. Plane wreck at Kakwa Lake. A 32 year old reunion in the wilderness with Archie Clark. Camp equipment and organization described. TRACK 2: Handling the horses. Clients and costs. Working on GTP Railway in 1911. Threshing in Manitoba. Floated upper Fraser River on a scow in 1912 en route to Vancouver. Took stage from Soda Creek. Interviewer's notations.

Garvin Dezell interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Garvin Dezell describes the growth and expansion of Prince George including roads, railroads, industry, economy, population, municipal services, sawmills, pulp mills and pollution. Then; Mr. Dezell discusses his political career as mayor and offers some opinions. TRACK 2: Mr. Dezell continues discussing pulp mills, air and water pollution, Prince George as a centre for 100,000 people, population growth, highways and more opinions.

George Monroe interview

CALL NUMBER: T0691:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. George C. Monroe discusses his early life; born in Idaho, November 15, 1885. He discusses his father, who was a Methodist preacher who moved all around the western states before coming to Canada; the Methodist church; eventually moving to Alberta where he lived for ten years; moved to BC with his wife and two children; describes why he moved to Alberta to be a rancher with his brother; he was also a school teacher; moved near Coronation, Alberta; moved to BC to be a homesteader. He went to McBride but thought it was miserable; he describes the area in great detail; he describes his process of finding and establishing a homestead; he describes his ranch; he describes his neighbours, and his first few years on the ranch; the problems with local ferries. TRACK 2: Mr. Monroe continues by telling the story of the Farmers Institute, where they elected him to be the leader; there were no farmers in the Institute, only ranchers and lumberjacks; he discusses a few incidents and characters who were related to the Institute; Jack Mints, a locomotive foreman; a baseball game between the farmers and the railroaders; Wally Jack, who was a mill man and lumberjack; McBride. He describes his parents' lives in Edmonton as hotel owners who also ran a soup kitchen; a rough life in Edmonton; hunting for moose; his work ethic; incidents from his early life; his first winter; Christmas dinner; other anecdotes.

CALL NUMBER: T0691:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Monroe continues with an anecdote about a dog; more about his ranch; a fire in the house; more stories about incidents which happened on the land, including a run-in with a beaver; he also discusses trapping. [TRACK 2: blank.]

George Thomas Holdway interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. G.T. Holdway describes his life; how he came from London, England, to Ontario and later came west to have an outdoor life as a farmer; came to McBride in 1913; worked hauling in supplies ;from the river; he describes McBride at that time, including several anecdotes about people and occurrences. [TRACK 2: blank.]

G.S. Andrews interview : [Chambers, 1974]

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-02-13 SUMMARY: History of Pine Pass. Andrews' journey through Pine Pass in 1924. Story of John Bennett's ill-fated journey through Pine Pass in 1930. Origin of the name Bennett Creek.;

Hans Roine interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Hans Roine describes how he came to Prince George from Northern Saskatchewan in 1945 to start a sawmill business; a description of what Prince George was like at that time; and the logging industry there since his arrival up to the date of the interview. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Harold Moffat interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Harold Moffat, who was the mayor of Prince George from 1969 to 1979, describes the Moffat family, his childhood, the growth of Prince George, sawmills, pulp mills, the big boom when the PGE railroad came in, development of railroads, and Prince George being a cross-roads. TRACK 2: Mr. Moffat continues by discussing how the big boom affected social life, air and water pollution, population growth, housing developments, city limits, his career as mayor, and job training.

Hersch Neighbor interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.1 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: A green kid's first trip wrangling in 1926. A cold forty day trip. Guided for 38 consecutive years. Included Jasper, Tete Jaune Cache, and Pink Mountain. Best game and horse country was ;north of Jasper. Territorial comparison. Curly Phillips was pioneering outfitter. Indians. Hunting territories overlapped at Kakwa (Porcupine) Lake. Various geographic names in Kakwa area / Sheep Pass meadows. Clark's crossing on Smoky River. Die-off of caribou. TRACK 2: Various trips in Jasper Park. Some Jasper outfitters. Brother, Rufe, started about 1918, later partner with Bert Wilkins. Description of Curly Phillips and operation. Ed 'Dad' Neighbor. Park guide badge 1921. Otto Brothers in Jasper. Magazine article. Family move with horses from Tete Jaune Cache to Pink Mountain in 1954. Outfitted from Pink Mountain for ten years. Description of his territory, rivers, game, trails. 1906 police trail noted. Eunice's (wife) involvement in operations. CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.2 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Stan Russell's death and burial on Big Shale Hill, 1951. Plaque mounted. George Hargreaves' death and grave. Shovel superstition. Details of bear attack on Harry Phillips at Berland River; on Jack Powell at Prophet River. Blood poisoning incident on dude trip to Kakwa Lake, 1936 or 1937. A lucky wilderness operation on his leg. Changes in outfitting over the years, tents, cooking, stoves and heating, lamps, pack boxes. Game pressure and conservation today. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Introducing Prince George : [incomplete]

SUMMARY: Part of radio program featuring interviews on location by Bob Harlow, with Ralph Laker (?), an old logger; Ron Linstrom (?) and Godwin Winedale (?), young loggers; and Clarence Minton (?), camp cook, about: arrival in Canada, camp life then and today; cutting lumber; trimming trees; killing bears; cooking duties. Followed by description of a logging mill by an unidentified announcer, with interviews of Ray Turner (?), foreman, and W.C. Phillips, district forester, about cutting logs; government timber policies; preserving northern spruce stands in Prince George area; industry, forestry, description of process. Included are sounds of sawing logs. Recorded by Lloyd Harrop. (NOTE: The BC Archives copy may not include all of the above material.)

Irwin McDonald interview

CALL NUMBER: T0415:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1965?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Irwin McDonald describes his father, Archie Roy McDonald, who came from the Isle of Skye in Scotland, and moved in turn to Colorado, Montana, Mexico and BC, chasing mining drives; some anecdotes about his father's trip to BC; Colville; silver mines; his father and mother; his mother's death when he was three; school in Spokane; the Kootenays, and who discovered several sites there; buying land in Strom, Alberta; several characters and anecdotes; his siblings; Nelson; a boat trip to Kootenay Landing and train ride to Cranbrook; distant relatives from Ontario named Stuart; McCullough and his purchase of land in BC. TRACK 2: Mr. McDonald continues by describing the winter of 1907 in Alberta and the subsequent sale of the ranch in Alberta; they moved to Edmonton and then to BC with a few pack horses, leaving Edmonton on May 15. He describes the trip in great detail.

CALL NUMBER: T0415:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1965?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. McDonald continues discussing a man named Swift and more anecdotes about their journey; Jasper House, Tete Jaune Cache; Canoe River; more on the journey. He explains that they were trying to go to the Cariboo down the Thompson River, not really knowing what to expect or where they were exactly going to land, and not hitting the Cariboo Road until 70 Mile House. They got to Clinton soon after. TRACK 2: Mr. McDonald talks about 70 Mile House; building a house and barn; supplies; ranching. He describes Ashcroft.

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