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Cattle ranching in the Nicola

SUMMARY: The story of cattle ranching in the Nicola Valley: its beginnings in the days of the Cariboo gold rush, and the work of ranchers and cowboys at the Douglas Lake Cattle Company. The voices heard are: Bill Brennan; Alex Bulman; Gerald Guichon; Fred Irwin; Doug Palmer; and Martin Starret.

William Brennan interview

CALL NUMBER: T0667:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. William Brennan discusses his early years; coming to Kamloops because of lung troubles; Kamloops described; cattle drives to the railroad; joined survey for CNR along the North Thompson; driving logs down river. TRACK 2: Brennan describes cattle drives from Nicola country; cows; horses; Sam Pau, who was an Indian cowboy; an incident with cattle on a bridge; pre-war Englishmen in BC; Fruitlands Company buying up ranches; Roper of Cherry Creek; Bill Miner trial and escape; Bill Miner's life as a prospector and church supporter; and Bill Fortune's comments.

CALL NUMBER: T0667:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Brennan continues with anecdotes about Bill Fortune and his wife; Bill Miner stories; Haney brothers train robbery; remittance men in Kamloops; Rideau school at Musian Flats; Father Morice and Father Le Jeune, who gave Indian names to CPR stations. TRACK 2: Talented priests; Indian quest in Red River rebellion; passion play; Indians then and now; Father Le Jeune's Chinook newspaper;, "Kamloops Wawa"; the Indian schools then and now; more on Bill Fortune and ranches.

Louis Lobsinger interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Louis Lobsinger came from Bruce County, Ontario, where his family had two farms. He describes the story of how he came to BC to visit his sister in the Nicola Valley, and was hired as a printer who eventually bought out his boss. The paper was the Nicola Herald, and he changed the name to the Merritt Herald. He describes a coal miners' strike in 1909; Mrs. Priest, who was the first school teacher in 1905; dances; in 1914 railroads changed from coal to oil and there was a depression in Merritt, until the saw mill opened in 1924; then in the 1930s the depression hit; various jobs he held; how he paid off debts; ranchers; the Cootley family; the 1934 stampede; his move to Williams Lake in 1952, and all the changes he saw there; the coal mines at Merritt; the cowboy/miner relationship; people passing through on their way to Fort George in 1909; finally he discusses the end of coal mining in Merritt. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Gay Bayliff interview : [Orchard, 1964]

CALL NUMBER: T0368:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-27 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Gabriel T.L. Bayliff talks about his father's experiences in the Chilcotin and various aspects of life in the region. The interview begins with a discussion about how Bayliff's father came to BC and his early experiences on ranches in the Nicola Valley. He worked for Bill Roper at Cherry Creek. His father wrote a paper on ranching. Mr. Bayliff describes the people of the Chilcotin. His father teamed up with Norman Lee to start a ranch in 1887. There is talk of the local Indians, Alexis Creek, Ashcroft, his parent's marriage and his mother's reaction to the country, the Hamilton family and young British people in the area.

TRACK 2: Mr. Bayliff discusses play and work, travel and the mail service. He mentions Benny Franklin, a well-known early settler. He goes on to discuss the acquisition of land, Graham and his ranch at Tatla Lake, gold prospecting, stories about Chinese settlers, Becher's stopping house at Riske Creek and his father's experience on a pack train.

CALL NUMBER: T0368:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-07-27 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Bayliff comments on Norman Lee's ranch near Redstone. He explains the place names of: Bull Canyon, Chilco and Chezacut. He discusses the Indian battle at Bull Canyon and "Salu's leap". He talks about people killed by Chilcotin Indians, the Hance family, and purchases of local cattle during the building of the Grand Trunk Pacific. [TRACK 2: blank.]

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