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Sam Hardy interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sam Hardy : woods work, 1940-1974 PERIOD COVERED: 1925-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-29 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Hardy describes: early life in logging camps, 1925-40; Malahat Logging Company; starting as a boom man, 1940; description of boom and raft operations; anecdote about a Davis raft that got away; moving from camp to camp and job to job; working sequence in boom work; accident rate frequency, 1940-1974. Discusses: sequence of jobs on rigging crew, 1940s; job descriptions of chokerman, rigging slinger, hook tender, steel spar engineer, and chaser. Arrival in Nimpkish Valley, 1945; duties of second loader; problems with "foot draggers"; competition between crews; getting a job on the railway; move to Nimpkish, 1948; description of Woss camp construction. Anecdotes about smuggling alcohol into camps; joining the IWA and union activity; early union activity and organizing; worker attitudes toward the union; negotiations and strikes. TRACK 2: Mr. Hardy discusses: mornings on the Nimpkish Railway, 1940s; functioning of the railway network at Nimpkish; railway safety; differences between steam and diesel railway engines; maintenance on steam locomotives; pride in work; Russell Mills; Canfor as an employer; labour relations at Nimpkish. (End of interview)

Art E. Newman interview

CALL NUMBER: T0542:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Production Superintendent for Canadian Forest Products PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1975 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-29 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Art Newman discusses: techniques and skills in hand falling, 1930; predominance of Scandinavians in falling, 1930s; importance of Scandinavians in organizing the IWA; responsibility of the bull buckers in setting prices and contract rates, 1930-1964; the process of setting contract rates and production priorities; becomes a bull bucker, 1946. Talks about problems of the bull bucker: quality, accident prevention, costs and production. Dealing with men. Qualities of a good faller. Differences in falling small and large timber. The faller's "mistake book". Type and frequency of accidents. Coming to Nimpkish, 1946. Accepting responsibilities in the logging industry. The making of a supervisor. TRACK 2: Art Newman discusses: his move to Woss camp, 1946; logging sites surrounding Woss camp 1946-47; life in Nimpkish camp, 1946-60; getting assistance to the camps in emergencies; family life in Nimpkish; recreation and community activities; problems with alcohol; logging methods during late 1940s; sizes of settings, 1940-70s; transition from hand falling to power saw falling, 1935-50; changes in amounts of timber cut per man per day, 1930-75. Talks about his acquisition of logging knowledge. CALL NUMBER: T0542:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Production Superintendent for Canadian Forest Products PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-29 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Reasons for changeover to railway/truck logging from strictly railway logging. Description of Russell Mills. Membership in the IWA, 1942-46. Changes in the IWA union, 1946-74. Communist influence of IWA, 1945-50. [TRACK 2: blank.; end of interview.]

Tom McPherson interview

CALL NUMBER: T0543:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Tom McPherson: CanFor Railway, repair shop charge hand, woods life, 1938-74 PERIOD COVERED: 1938-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-30 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Tom McPherson discusses: the functioning of a railway repair shop; railway repair shop construction at Nimpkish camp, 1955; repair procedure before 1950; changes in the construction of railway rolling stock at Nimpkish, 1950-1974; end of wooden rolling stock, 1960; working life of a wooden flatcar; care and maintenance of equipment; early life in the logging industry; tugs and logging barges on the coast, 1938. Starting to work in Repair shops, 1938. Acts as a 'boomer' following the war, 1946-48. Limitations of the seniority system and unions. Arrival and work at Englewood, 1948. Supervisors at Englewood, 1948. Changes in working conditions at Nimpkish, 1948-74. Membership in the IWA and belief in unions. Management and union positions during a strike. TRACK 2: Greatest change in IWA since 1938. Company attitudes toward union membership, 1938-50. Basis of union recruitment. Description of early union men and organizers, 1940s. Place of Scandinavians in early union organizing, 1940s. Organizing of union locals, 1935-45. Importance of unions in improving safety conditions. Canfor's concern for safety conditions at Nimpkish. Living conditions at Englewood camp, 1938. Good and bad accommodation, 1938. Social relations at Nimpkish camp, 1938-1974. Mobility in and out of camps, 1938-1974. CALL NUMBER: T0543:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Tom McPherson: CanFor Railway, repair shop charge hand, woods life, 1938-74 PERIOD COVERED: 1938-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-30 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Changes in Englewood since construction of the highway. Organizations and social activities in the camps. Anecdotes about memorable people in the Nimpkish Valley. Thoughts on being a Canadian; and the importance of aural history. The Lumber Jack Club and Women's Institute. [TRACK 2: blank; End of interview]

Cliff Bentley interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life in the B.C. forest industry, 1917-1968 PERIOD COVERED: 1917-1968 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-30 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Bentley discusses: Wood and English logging company activity in the Nimpkish Valley, 1917-1918; working on a steam tug, 1918; placement of the Wood and English camps, 1,2 and 3. Anecdote on the beginning of the Great Depression, 1929. Pre-emption on logging grants, 1929. Anecdote on meeting with Mr. English. Working for Brown and Kirkland logging, 1923. "Cent-and-a-half" Phillips anecdote. Going to Vancouver on a Christmas break. Comment on Fred Brown and Fred Kirkland. Responsibilities of boom superintendent at Nimpkish camp: booming, sorting and transporting. TRACK 2: Life in Nimpkish camp, 1940s. Transporting loggers during work breaks. Anecdote on losing of tug crew members. (End of interview)

Helen Bozman and Anna Hardy interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Twenty-six years in Woss camp, 1948-1974 PERIOD COVERED: 1940-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-31 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Helen Bozman and Anna Hardy discuss: expectations about logging camp life, 1948; description of Woss camp, 1948; creating adequate family accommodation in the camp; company housing; shipping in food from Vancouver; taking a trip to Vancouver; changes in camp life since 1948; symptoms of 'being bushed'; social life interactions between married and unmarried personnel, 1940s; social activities in the camps; building of the camp school, 1948; education in the camp; effects of night shift work on family life; liquor in the camp; worry about accidents; effects of strikes on family life; evaluation of life in Woss camp, 1948-74. TRACK 2: Discuss likes and dislikes concerning camp life, and evaluation of Canfor as an employer. (End of interview)

Owen Hennigar interview

CALL NUMBER: T0546:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Manager for Canfor, Englewood Division - coastal logging PERIOD COVERED: 1935-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-31 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Hennigar discusses his first involvement in the forest industry: Gyppo logging near Powell River, 1935-37. Joins B.C. Forest Service, 1937-39. Work as a ranger-assistant: inspections, maintenance. Return to Gyppo logging, 1939. Cat logging, 1939-41. Move to Englewood, 1942. The sawmill at Englewood. History of company ownership in the Nimpkish Valley. Rebuilding the railway from Englewood to camp L. Description of the area logged by Wood and English. Canfor operations in the Nimpkish Valley, 1942. Evaluation of cat logging and environmental impact. TRACK 2: Attitudes toward environmental factors in logging, 1940-60. Description of various supervisory jobs held, 1944-74. Woods foreman, 1947-53. Camp superintendent's duties 1953-64. Resident manager, 1964-74. Description of an average camp in the Nimpkish, 1940s. Loggers' attitudes toward their jobs, 1940s. Changes in safety practices, 1940-74. Introduction of compulsory safety equipment, 1948-74. Concerns for worker safety. Safety rallies, 1950s. CALL NUMBER: T0546:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Manager for Canfor, Englewood Division - coastal logging PERIOD COVERED: 1935-1974 RECORDED: Beaver Cove (B.C.), 1974-07-31 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dealing with industrial accidents and safety. Description of Russell Mills. Description of Bill McMahan. Duties of production superintendents, 1954-64. Membership in the IWA, 1942-47. Changes in the IWA, 1940-47. Expiration of logging contracts. Changes in worker attitudes, hiring, suspensions, firings. Problems of wildcat strikes and negotiating contracts. Problems of railway logging. Ecological concerns in log industry and government policy. TRACK 2: Attitudes of management toward environmental concerns. Sustained yield logging. Multiple land use in the forests. Major changes at Englewood division, 1964-74. Dry-land sorting procedure. Change in types of individuals employed as loggers, 1940-74. Changes in forest industry methods and equipment, 1940-74. (End of interview)

Fred Wastell interview : [Reimer, 1974]

CALL NUMBER: T0547:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life in Alert Bay, 1909-29, and Telegraph Cove, 1929-74 PERIOD COVERED: 1909-1974 RECORDED: Telegraph Cove (B.C.), 1974-08-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Fred Wastell describes: early life in Alert Bay; description of Alert Bay, ca. 1910; prominent families in Alert Bay, 1910-20; sawmill and Indian village at Alert Bay; potlatches at Alert Bay; visitors' accommodation at Alert Bay, 1920s; cannery and fish hatchery in Alert Bay and Nimpkish area. Description of Alert Bay, 1910-20: settlers around Nimpkish Valley, 1912; Tracey & Garland Logging Co; Hand logging Operations, 1920s; sawmill operation and Beaver Cove, 1918. TRACK 2: Fred Wastell discusses: labour problems at Alert Bay; problems with sawmill organization at Alert Bay, ca. 1920; Wood and English mill at Englewood, 1924-25; description of Mr. Wood and Mr. English; Telegraph Cove sawmill operation, 1929-74; saltery operation and problems at Telegraph Cove, 1929-37 Japanese business practices, 1930s; cannery influence on government policy, 1920-40; labour supply at Telegraph Cove mill, 1920-74.

CALL NUMBER: T0547:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life in Telegraph Cove, 1929-74 PERIOD COVERED: 1899-1974 RECORDED: Telegraph Cove (B.C.), 1974-08-01 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Life in Telegraph Cove. Personnel and Jobs. Building of the road to Telegraph Cove. Advantages of a large mill operation over a small mill. Sointula Finnish commune settlement. Social conditions in Telegraph Cove. The naming of Telegraph Cove. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview.]

Thomas B. Scott interview

CALL NUMBER: T0548:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The career of a timber cruiser and logging layout man PERIOD COVERED: 1919-1941 RECORDED: Nanaimo (B.C.), 1974-08-02 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discusses first involvement in the forest industry. Description of ground lead and high lead logging. Job of the 'tallyman'. The Pacific Lumber Inspection Bureau. Cruising with Hibberson and Ryan, 1921-26. Working on government sponsored taxation cruise. Number of employees on Hibberson and Ryan Crew. Logistical problems in early timber cruising. Camp life and woods work while timber cruising, 1920s. TRACK 2: Anecdotes about storing food and problems with animals in the woods. Problems with insects. Waste in milling operations. Duties of the Compass man. Bullbucking and learning logging layouts, 1925-1935. Anecdote about M.A. Grainger. Working for Alberni Pacific Logging Company and later MacMillan & Bloedel. CALL NUMBER: T0548:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The career of a timber cruiser and logging layout man, 1919-74 RECORDED: Nanaimo (B.C.), 1974-08-02 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Greater emphasis on timber cruising, 1940s. Purchasing and operational cruising responsibilities, 1938-67. Chief Cruiser for MacMillan & Bloedel. Confidential nature of timber cruising. Efficiency of logging industry, 1936-74. Feasibility studies for Prince Rupert pulp mill. Work since retirement, 1967-74. Description of timber cruising methods, 1936-74. TRACK 2: Training of timber cruiser. Comments on the E and N Railway land grants and the effect on coast logging. Eustace Smith, Hal Gardiner, and Harry Baxter. The making of a good timber cruiser. Comments on labour unions, 1934-74. General comments on life as a timber cruiser. (End of interview)

Sounds of logging, 1974

CALL NUMBER: T0549:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sounds of logging SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dispatch Shack, Woss camp. Mill's boom reloader operation, Woss Lake. Falling and bucking operation, Vernon Lake area. TRACK 2: Falling operation (cont'd). Steel spar yarder, logging truck, front end loader, Vernon Lake. Shop noises. Cookhouse whistle. Car repair shop, Nimpkish. Diesel Railway Engine, Woss camp.

CALL NUMBER: T0549:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Sounds of logging SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Booming boats (dozer boats), Canfor booming grounds, Beaver Cove. Log dumping and railway engine shunter, Beaver Cove. [TRACK 2: blank.]

M. Rose Tindall interview

CALL NUMBER: T0550:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Homesteading on the Nimpkish River, 1903-1934 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1934 RECORDED: North Vancouver (B.C.), 1974-08-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: M. Rose Tindall describes her family background and early life on the Nimpkish River: family had moved from Ireland, ca. 1900; homestead at Nimpkish River; other families on the Nimpkish River- Hammonds, Mathers; earning a living and the annual work cycle at Nimpkish, ca.1900; cord wood for fires; acquiring and shipping food and farming supplies to Alert Bay from Vancouver, 1900-1910. TR;ACK 2: Anecdote concerning the family Dairy. Tracey and Garland Logging Company: description of camp on the Nimpkish River. Mail call along the Nimpkish River and anecdote about 'Lansdowne Beer'. Description of Englewood, 1920s. Problems with the care of livestock going to school in England, 1914-20. Anecdote about a friend of the family. Life on the farm following the death of her father. Mother's aptitude for farm life. CALL NUMBER: T0550:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Homesteading on the Nimpkish River, 1903-1934 PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1934 RECORDED: North Vancouver (B.C.), 1974-08-13 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Stories about R. Haig-Brown. Anecdotes about cougars. Description of Nimpkish River homestead. Information on land tenure. Anecdote about meeting with relatives. Feelings of isolation following return from England, early 1920s. Building an ice house. R. Haig-Brown. An anecdote about sailing to Vancouver. TRACK 2: Summation of life experiences in the Nimpkish River homestead. Packages and mail from England. (End of interview)

Charles Gibson interview

CALL NUMBER: T0552:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Ashcroft, B.C., 1897-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1897-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Gibson tells story of his grandfather, Charles Henry Gibson, who came to Ashcroft in 1897. Discusses his grandfather's career as an entrepreneur and rancher; he was one of the leading citizens of early Ashcroft. Father was educated in private school in Victoria. Mother's family described. Family ranches sold out in 1951. Relations between Chinese and Indians. TRACK 2: Gibson learned Chinese as a child. The Chinese in the agricultural economy of Ashcroft. Chinese life and customs described. Cataline described. Cataline as a businessman. Experiences of Gibson's maternal grandfather, Francis Webb, as a stipendiary magistrate in Ashcroft. (The voice of Dr. John Roberts is also heard.)

CALL NUMBER: T0552:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Ashcroft, B.C., 1897-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1897-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: More on Cataline and Judge Henry Castillou. Gibson family suit against the CPR over water rights. Social life in Ashcroft. Leading citizens of Ashcroft. Fraternal orders. TRACK 2: blank. (End of interview) (The voice of Dr. John Roberts is also heard.)

John Henry Cates interview

CALL NUMBER: T0593:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Experiences of a Coalitionist in the provincial environment PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-07-25 SUMMARY: Description of early life in Vancouver. Early period in municipal politics in North Vancouver, B.C. Getting involved in provincial politics during the Coalition period. Election as an MLA in 1945. Work as an MLA for North Vancouver. Demands of constituents for improvements in riding. Social life in government. Description of Herbert Anscomb and Boss Johnson. Reasons for not running in 1952 election. Role of Minister of Labour. Relations with unions. Discussion of British Columbia Hospital Insurance Service.

CALL NUMBER: T0593:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Minister of Labour in Coalition government PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974 SUMMARY: Description of W.A.C. Bennett. Discussion of the expansion of the Pacific Great Eastern Railway. Kitimat development and the building of the Hope Princeton Highway. (End of interview)

Jack Durrell interview

CALL NUMBER: T0594:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Ranching in the Chilcotin region PERIOD COVERED: 1891-1940 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Durrell discusses family background: father, Harry Durrell, came to Chilcotin in 1894; after several false starts, began Wineglass Ranch in 1906; father's experiences in establishing the ranch; parents married in 1917; Durrell born in 1919. Chilcotin ranches. Food and supplies in the early part of the century. Telephones. Cattle drives to Williams Lake and Ashcroft. TRACK 2: More on cattle drives. Clothing. Effects of the Depression on the ranchers. Hired help. Local place names. More on hired help. Description of irrigation methods. Irrigation works on the Wineglass Ranch. Education by correspondence. Problems of education in an isolated place. Personal background. CALL NUMBER: T0594:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Chilcotin ranching PERIOD COVERED: 1900-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Durrell describes: working with horses; techniques of harvesting "swamp hay"; changes in game population; more on horses; the seasonal round of work on a Chilcotin ranch; problems of wintering cattle; use of cow dogs; problems of medical attention; use of indigenous herbal remedies; more on dogs; lack of success with sheep in Chilcotin; Gristmille; problems of wintering cattle; law enforcement. TRACK 2: Anecdotes about cattle rustling. Cattle drives to Grand Trunk Pacific Railroad. (End of interview)

Joseph Harris interview

CALL NUMBER: T0612:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Fruit farming in the Penticton area, 1906-1950 PERIOD COVERED: 1906-1950 RECORDED: Penticton (B.C.), 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Harris describes his background: born Oak River, Manitoba, 1910; family to Penticton, BC, 1917. Mr. Harris discusses: the Ellis Ranch; Southern Okanagan Land Company; irrigation of the Penticton area. Details about the construction of early irrigation works, circa 1906 to 1910. Details about irrigation. Thomas Ellis and the Ellis Ranch. Orchard and irrigation work. Varieties of fruit. TRACK 2: More on varieties of fruit. Attitudes and ideas of early orchardists. Learning the fruit business. Insects and pest control. Spraying techniques. Poison problems with insecticides. Changes in the fruit industry. Harris' early memories of fruit farming. Sizes of orchards. Changes in fruit marketing. CALL NUMBER: T0612:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Okanagan fruit industry, 1920-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1920-1960 RECORDED: Penticton (B.C.), 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Harris discusses: the formation of fruit marketing co-operatives after 1920; problems of fruit marketing, 1930s; B.C. Fruit Growers Association; conflicts between growers and shippers; problems of the fruit economy; the seasonal round of work in the fruit industry in the 1920s. TRACK 2: The seasonal round of work (cont'd). Holidays and celebrations. August heat. Mosquitoes. Orchard workers. (End of interview)

Martha S. Mulvahill interview : [Reimer, 1975]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Life at Chezacut in the Chilcotin, 1908-1930 PERIOD COVERED: 1908-1930 RECORDED: Williams Lake (B.C.), 1975-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Martha S. Mulvahill discusses life at Chezacut in the Chilcotin: how she came to the Chilcotin; her brother, Will Copeland, had ranch at Chezacut; arrival and description of stage journey to Chezacut; the ranch; haying time; cattle drives; her husband, John W. "Charlie" Mulvahill; his background; husband's ranch. TRACK 2: Mrs. Mulvahill further discusses life at Chezacut: trip to Ashcroft; growing hay; cold winters; wildlife; school; digging well; husband's accident with horse; details of farming; driving cattle; trapping; Norman Lee's famous cattle drive to the Klondike.

Mary Hamilton interview : [Stewart, 1975]

PERIOD COVERED: ;1908;-;1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1975-07-24 SUMMARY: Mary Wallace Hamilton, born in New Westminster, 1891, is a 1908 graduate of Victoria High School. McGill University graduate. Types of students who completed their high school education in 1908. Parental influence and encouragement concerning a girl's academic achievement. Opportunities for women; clerking, teaching, nursing or secretarial work. Role of women in school life. General attitudes towards women and education. Women's opportunities -- changes through the years.

Imbert Orchard interview : [Reimer, 1978]

CALL NUMBER: T0990:0003
SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Introduction to aural history
PERIOD COVERED: 1909-1961
RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1978
SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Orchard's background in the study of history and English. Orchard's developing interest in local history in Ontario, ca. 1931. The strong first impression of B.C. on Orchard. The "compression" of B.C. history. The "epic" quality of pioneer life in B.C. "Variety" in B.C. Orchard's war work in the field of camouflage. Spent nine years in Alberta in the field of drama. Began as a script editor for CBC radio and TV. Orchard's first recordings with Constance Cox, 1960. Comments on CBC bureaucracy. TRACK 2: Orchard's first radio series on the Skeena with John Edwards as producer. Orchard's first interviewing trip to the Skeena, 1961. The selection of subjects. Recording techniques. Ian Stephen as Orchard's technician. More on the first Skeena River trip. Recording with Wiggs O'Neill, Sara Bourgon.

CALL NUMBER: T0990:0004
SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Recording the "Living Memory" of British Columbia
PERIOD COVERED: 1961-1967
RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1978
SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the story of Orchard's first Skeena trip, 1961. The second Skeena trip, 1962. Anecdotes about recording in the Skeena country. "River of the Clouds", Orchard's first big documentary program. Meeting Agnes Russ. Recording techniques and the routine of recording. Little preliminary research. More on Ian Stephen as Orchard's technician. Making the programs. The artist's eye and ear. "River of the Clouds" won awards. "Living Memory" a series of 15 minute sound programs. Recording the Victoria series of interviews in the spring of 1962. Recording in the Fraser Valley area, 1963. Meeting Martin Starret, 1963. Starret was Orchard's outstanding subject. TRACK 2: Continuation of the discussion of Martin Starret. Trip with Martin Starret to Babine Lake. Other outstanding interviews: Paddy Acland, Phyllis Bryant, Cornelius Kelleher. Major gathering trips in 1964 and 1965: Nicola, Cariboo, Boundary, Okanagan, Kootenays, Vancouver Island, Lower coast, Gulf Islands, etc. Orchard now able to do his own recordings. Anecdotes about Orchard's travels while recording. Orchard's new series, "People in Landscape".

CALL NUMBER: T0990:0005
SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Aural history in British Columbia
PERIOD COVERED: 1964-1971
RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1978
SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Canadian Centennial, 1967, a landmark in Orchard's broadcasting career. Discussion of new artist techniques used in the series of 1 hour programs, "From the Mountains to the Sea", 1967. Anecdotes about making the programs. Problems of separating "truth" from "myth" in the recordings. After about 1967, Orchard begins to do his own editing. Major journeys: the Chilcotin with Phyllis Bryant Kellis; the Parsnip River with the Boy Scouts, following David Thompson's route. About 2/3 of Orchard's recordings not yet made into programs. About 1/4 to 1/5 of the total material would go into programs. More on recording sessions. General reflections on aural history. [TRACK 2: blank. End of interview.]

Grace McCarthy interview : [Mitchell, 1980]

CALL NUMBER: T0995:0006 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Minister without Portfolio, 1966-1972 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1980 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grace McCarthy recalls the first time she met W.A.C. Bennett. Relations with the Premier as a member of the Vancouver Parks Board. General impressions of W.A.C. Bennett as Premier. W.A.C. Ben;nett and Vancouver. Reasons for W.A.C. Bennett's image in the press. Early views of Social Credit. Comments on her husband's involvement in Social Credit politics. Civic politics in Vancouver. Backgro;und to decision to run as a Social Credit candidate in the provincial election of 1966. Recollections of the 1966 election. First impressions as an MLA. Reaction to being appointed a Minister without Portfolio. Frustration of serving in cabinet without a portfolio after the first few years. During the period she served under W.A.C. Bennett he was becoming increasingly shielded from reality. Reasons for the lack of intra-governmental communication during the last years of W.A.C. Bennett's government. TRACK 2: Government and teamwork. Comments on cabinet under W.A.C. Bennett. Comparison between; government during W.A.C. Bennett's tenure as Premier and the government of Bill Bennett. Different attitudes towards development in B.C. W.A.C. Bennett's attitude toward government. Representing British Columbia on behalf of the Premier at the 1968 Premiers' Conference in Saskatchewan. Intuition that she would attend the conference. Comments on the conference. Discussion of remarks made in correspondence found in W.A.C. Bennett's papers concerning the conference. W.A.C. Bennett's attitude toward conferences. Preparation for the conference. Reasons why she was asked to represent the province at the conference. Comments on electioneering. Running a campaign in a dual-member constituency. Recollection of her seat-mate in Vancouver-Little Mountain, Les Peterson. CALL NUMBER: T0995:0007 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Recollections of W.A.C. Bennett and B.C. politics RECORDED: [location unknown], 1980 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grace McCarthy discusses the changing nature of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1952-72. Social Credit as the party of business. Political parties as coalitions. Comments on the character of the NDP in British Columbia. Objections to socialism. Socialism and communism. Individual freedom versus state control. Government intervention in the economy. Evaluation of different leaders of the NDP in B.C.: Robert Strachan, Thomas Berger, David Barrett. The NDP in opposition. The role of a parliamentary opposition. Polarization in British Columbia politics. The inevitability of the opposition becoming government. TRACK 2: The possibility of W.A.C. Bennett entering federal politics in Canada. The possibility that W.A.C. Bennett intended to retire prior to 1972. W.A.C. Bennett and premonitions. W.A.C. Bennett and the power of positive thinking. W.A.C. Bennett's loyalty to colleagues. Comments on theories of predestination. W.A.C. Bennett's government was not a "one-man-government". Reasons why voters in B.C. would not admit to supporting Social Credit. Loyalty as a political weakness of W.A.C. Bennett. W.A.C. Bennett's strengths and weaknesses as a leader. W.A.C. Bennett as a shy man. His attitude toward women. Reaction to and the effect of Robert Bonner's resignation as Attorney-General, 1968. Recollection of Bonner's victory in the Cariboo by-election in 1966. CALL NUMBER: T0995:0008 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The 1972 provincial election RECORDED: [location unknown], 1980 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grace McCarthy discusses the Social Credit cabinet's tour of British Columbia in the spring of 1972. Press coverage of the tour. The climax of the tour at a meeting at New Westminster which resulted in a violent demonstration by organized labour. Reasons for the angry demonstration. Press commentary on the event. Reaction to the demonstration. The changing nature of the political climate in B.C. in the early 1970s. Reasons for the decline of Social Credit in the period leading up to the 1972 election. The calling of elections under the leadership of W.A.C. Bennett. As Minister without Portfolio, she assumed responsibility for the provincial Job Opportunities Program. Work in the area of social policy. Personal feelings going into the 1972 election campaign. Recollection of election night, 1972. The fickle loyalties of some Socred supporters. Speaking with Premier Bennett on election night. Reaction to the defeat of the government. General reflections on the election. [TRACK 2:; blank?] (End of interview)

John Diefenbaker interview : [Mitchell, 1978]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Recollections of W.A.C. Bennett and B.C. politics PERIOD COVERED: 1948-1963 RECORDED: Ottawa (Ont.), 1978-03-09 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: In an interview with David Mitchell, former Prime Minister John Diefenbaker recalls coming to British Columbia in 1948 to help W.A.C. Bennett's campaign in the Yale by-election; general impressions of W.A.C. Bennett as Premier of British Columbia. Diefenbaker discusses the fact that he regarded Bennett and the Socreds as essentially conservatives. He also discusses the Columbia River Treaty, Davie Fulton and his 1963 challenge to W.A.C. Bennett, the opening of the Trans-Canada highway and federal-provincial relations. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview.];

Ann Rottacker interview : [Reimer, 1976]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Fort St. James, 1862-1914 PERIOD COVERED: 1862-1914 RECORDED: Williams Lake (B.C.), 1976-10-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Ann A. Rottacker discusses her background: born 1896 in Fort St. James; father, Alexander C. Murray, was the Hudson's Bay Factor; details about father. Fort St. James described: domestic; details; fur trade; relations between Indians and A.C. Murray. Elementary school in Fort St. James. Mrs. Rottacker at school in Victoria for four years. Mrs. Rottacker spoke Carrier as a child. Father A.G. Morice described. Cataline (Jean Caux) described. Travel. Father was at Fort St. James from 1862 to 1914. TRACK 2: Father travelled by snowshoe from Lower Fort Garry to Fort St. James in 1862.; Mrs. Rottacker sings briefly in Carrier. Kitchen garden at Fort St. James described. More on childhood. Route travelled between Fort St. James and Victoria in about 1905. Details of diet. HBC "open house" for Indians described. Clothing described.

Alfred Charles Wurtele interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Esquimalt by-election of 1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1913-1965 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-02-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: A.C. Wurtele was born in Kingston, Ontario, 1897. He describes his family background and gives a brief outline of his naval career from 1913 until his retirement in 1945. A brief account of his career as an alderman in Esquimalt up until the time of the 1951 provincial by-election. The 1951 by-election: dealing with W.A.C. Bennett. TRACK 2: More on the 1951 by-election. Discussion of the bitterness and in-fighting between the Liberals and Conservatives within the Coalition. The by-election campaign and the roles of Wurtele, Bennett, Waldo Skillings and Ron Worley. Public meetings described. The opponents: Percy George and Frank Mitchell. Wurtele defeated by Mitchell and the Coalition candidate badly defeated. General assessment of the by-election and its effects on Wurtele's career as Reeve of Esquimalt, 1951-65. (End of interview)

Peer Vernon Paynter interview

CALL NUMBER: T1175:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Paynter's early life and the origins of Social Credit in B.C. PERIOD COVERED: 1898-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1898 in Saskatchewan. Paynter's early life in Saskatchewan: association with the cooperative movement, farm life, public school education to the end of grade ten, religion in the Paynter family, worked for 9 years as a grain buyer. Moved to Vancouver, 1931. Work history in Vancouver in 1930s and 1940s, including Palm Ice Cream Co., carpentry work, Boeing Aircraft Co., CP Airlines.; President of union local at CP Airlines during part of World War II. Labour relations. TRACK 2: Paynter's first contact with the ideas of Social Credit, 1932. The first Socred study group in B.C. Bill Tutte was the leader of the study group. The operation of the study group. Social Credit League of British Columbia formed in 1934 (?). Description of the first office. Anti-Semitism within the Socred movement. The possibility of communists within the early Socred movement. The Social Credit theory: Major Douglas' analysis of the monetary system, the 'A plus B theorem', 'national dividend', 'just price discount'. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Origins of Social Credit in British Columbia : 1932-1945 PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter discusses the danger of dogmatically applying the Douglas theory of Social Credit. The philosophy of Social Credit: the oppression of monetary control. The differences between Social Credit and Technocracy. Members of the original Social Credit study group. Links between Social Credit and the British-Israel Association. Social Credit as the philosophy of "free enterprise". Differences between Social Credit and socialism. TRACK 2: Social Credit organizations: Social Credit League of B.C. and Union of Electors. Techniques of organizing Social Credit study groups. The Perfect Circle, a clandestine Social Credit organization during World War II. Perfect Circle kept Social Credit ideas alive during the war. Relations between B.C. Socreds and the Social Credit Secretariat in Li;verpool {London?]. The first Social Credit government in Alberta. Types of people in the Social Credit organization in the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia in the 1930s PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1936 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Characteristics of early Socreds. Incident when Harold Winch and others tried to convince Paynter to run for the C.C.F. in Vancouver East, 1933. Social Credit never contested municipal elections. Paynter's opinion that politicians should be "individuals" rather than members of a political party. Leading figures in Social Credit in the 1930s. The visit to B.C. in 1934 of Major C.H. Douglas, 1934. The visit of Rev. Hewlett Johnson, Dean of Canterbury, to Vancouver to speak on Social Credit, ca. 1934. Premier William Aberhart's role in B.C. Social Credit in the mid 1930s. Paynter describes Aberhart, and Aberhart's many visits to Vancouver. [TRACK 2: blank.]; CALL NUMBER: T1175:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia, 1932-1951 PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1951 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The formation of the first Social Credit study group in Vancouver, 1932. Discussions of the monetary theory of Social Credit and the "Douglas Social Credit for Canada" piece by William Tutte. Talks about Social Credit literature and the "Perfect Circle", a Socred secret society during WWII. Formation and dissolution of Social Credit groups in 1930s and 1940s. Other monetary theories discussed. Paynter asked to be Harold Winch's running mate in 1933 provincial election. Talks about other members of the Perfect Circle: description of William Tutte and Bill Rose. Social Credit League of B.C., from 1934. The provincial election of 1937 and Social Credit involvement of it. TRACK 2: More on the 1937 election. Social Credit did not run in the provincial election of 1941. Internal problems within Social Credit, 1937-1944. The Union of Electors. Organizational details about the 1930s. The formation of the Social Credit Association of Canada (B.C. Section), 1944. The founding convention, 1944. Eric Martin and Peer Paynter on the new executive. Activities of the new association. The 1945 provincial election. Paynter a candidate in Burrard. Paynter runs in the 1945 federal election. Paynter accused of being a communist, c. 1946.; CALL NUMBER: T1175:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Social Credit in British Columbia, 1945-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter continues discussing how he was accused by some other Socreds of being a communist, 1946. Formation of the Vancouver Area Council of Social Credit. Major Jukes as a divisive force in Social Credit, late 1940s. The split in Social Credit, 1948-49. The 1949 provincial election. Character of Major A.H. Jukes. More on the split. Name changes of the Social Credit organization. Dal Grauer of B.C. Electric makes large contributions to the Socreds in 1949 election. More on the 1948-49 split. TRACK 2: More on Major Jukes. Paynter runs in Chilliwack in 1949. Organizational work between 1949 and 1952 elections. Work of Lyle Wicks, Eric Martin and Peer Paynter. Social Credit League headquarters in Lyle Wicks' house. Paynter becomes the first paid Social Credit organizer in B.C., 1951. Organizing techniques. Organizing Social Credit groups around the province. Hospital insurance as an issue in the 1952 election. Internal organizational details. "Christian image" of Social Credit. More about organizing. Development of electoral platform for 1952 election. The weakness of the Coalition. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0006 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Preparing for power : the Social Credit in British Columbia, 1949-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1949-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The development of policy prior to the 1952 election. Individualism as part of the Social Credit philosophy. More on the Social Credit platform and Paynter's political philosophy. Comments on C.C.F. leader, Harold Winch. More on political philosophy. The role of government regulation in the economy. Comments on the takeover of B.C. Electric, 1961. The 1950 and 1951 Social Credit conventions. TRACK 2: More on the conventions. Less emphasis on monetary reform and the effects of many new members. Lack of basic Social Credit knowledge among many Socred MLAs. The 1951 Social Credit Convention in Chilliwack. Emotional plea at the convention by Lyle Wicks. Strong support for Social Credit from the Mennonites. The strong influence of Aberhart and Manning on fundamentalists in B.C. Pro-Christian and anti-socialist ideas within Social Credit. The connections between socialism and dictatorship. Paynter's assessment of the weakness of the Coalition government. The by-election in Esquimalt in 1951. Assistance to B.C. Socreds from Alberta Socreds. Advice on political strategy coming from Ernest Manning. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0007 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): W.A.C. Bennett and Social Credit come to power in B.C.: 1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1951-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Albertans who assisted with organizational work in B.C.: Orvis Kennedy, David Ure, John Blackmore, Jack Landeryou. Paynter's salary as an organizer paid for by the Alberta Socreds. Critical executive meeting regarding the assistance of the Alberta Socreds in the 1952 election. The 1951 Social Credit convention. W.A.C. Bennett at the 1951 convention. Paynter leery of Bennett as a Socred leader. First contacts between Bennett and the Socreds. Personal animosity towards Paynter by Bennett. The role of Eric Martin in bringing Bennett into the Social Credit League. TRACK 2: More on the entry of Bennett into the Social Credit League. The attitude of the Socreds to Bennett. W.A.C. Bennett as a new Socred member. The 1952 leadership convention. Hansell selected as interim leader. The Social Credit assessment of the 1952 election. Paynter an unsuccessful candidate in Revelstoke, 1952. Social Credit preparations for the 1952 election. Paynter has no regrets about never being elected. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0008 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Provincial election of 1952 and Paynter as national organizer, 1952-57 PERIOD COVERED: 1952-1958 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Paynter philosophical about never being elected despite several attempts. Paynter narrowly defeated in Burrard federal riding in 1953 and 1957. Significance of the transferable ballot in the 1952 election. Paynter refutes accusations that he was not doing all he could in the 1952 election. The role of Hansell in the election. Paynter's assessment of the strength of the C.C.F. in the 1952 election, namely Harold Winch. Social Credit critique of the C.C.F. Paynter's critique of socialism. Help from Alberta Premier Manning. Trouble finding candidates in the 1952 election. The quality of Social Credit candidates. The nomination of P.A. Gaglardi in Kamloops, 1952. Election night in 1952 and the period of uncertainty. TRACK 2: Bennett elected as leader by Social Credit caucus, July 1952. Paynter, Gaglardi and Irwin oppose Bennett. More on the election of Bennett. Paynter opposed to the appointment of Bonner and Gunderson to the cabinet. Paynter becomes Assistant National Organizer for Social Credit after 1952 election, until 1957. Financial situation of the federal organization. Aspects of Social Credit adopted by other parties. Paynter on federal executive until 1958. Laments the lack of knowledge of Social Credit principles by current MLAs. Brief comments on Free Enterprise Educational Fund. CALL NUMBER: T1175:0009 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Leading Figures in Social Credit, 1935-1960 PERIOD COVERED: 1935-1960 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Relations between a government and a party. W.A.C. Bennett as Premier. John Perdue defeats Paynter at 1952 Socred convention. Paynter as a candidate in the 1953 federal election. Social Credit badly defeated in 1958 in federal election. Effects of the "Sommers scandal" on Social Credit. Comments on Social Credit pioneers: J. Alan Reid, Orvis Kennedy, John Blackmore, Tilly Rolston, William Aberhart, Ernest Manning. TRACK 2: Comments on more Social Credit pioneers: Ernest Manning continued, Robert Thompson, Real Caouette, Ernest Hansell, Solon Low, Thomas Irwin, W.N. Chant, Eric Martin, Lyle Wicks, Robert Bonner. Summation of 45 years of active involvement in Social Credit. (End of interview)

Percy Richards interview : [Reimer, 1977]

CALL NUMBER: T1203:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): B.C. Premiers : Brewster, Oliver, MacLean, Tolmie, Pattullo and Hart PERIOD COVERED: 1912-1960 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-03-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Percival Charles Richards discusses background: born 1904 in England; moved to Victoria, 1912; early career as a journalist in Victoria and California. Richards' experiences in Ethiopia ca. 1955-59 as the editor of that country's first free press newspaper. Richards' recollections of Premiers H.C. Brewster, John Oliver, John D. MacLean. TRACK 2: Richards' reminiscences of Premier Dr. S.F. Tolmie. Political consequences of the Depression of the 1930s. John Hart's problems as Minister of Finance in the Pattullo government. Anecdotes about John Hart and Duff Pattullo. The firing of Hart by Pattullo and the formation of the Coalition in 1941. Details about the formation of the Coalition government. Discussion of Richards' position on Hart's staff as a secretary cum executive assistant. More about the formation of the Coalition. Details about Richards' dismissal by the Bennett government. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Personal reminiscence of Premier John Hart PERIOD COVERED: 1936-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-03-16 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Richards discusses: his dismissal by the Bennett government; more on the formation of the Coalition, 1941; negotiations between Hart of the Liberals and Maitland of the Conservatives; the deluge of work for the new provincial government, 1941-42. Hart goes through a depressed period shortly after becoming Premier. Hart's dealings with the Eastern financial community. How Richards' came to; work for Hart in 1936. Personal reminiscences and anecdotes about John Hart. Hart's appearance. Hart's athletic abilities. TRACK 2: Hart was a perfectionist. Hart's generosity toward people around him. Hart's regular poker games at the Union Club. Hart was a voracious reader, especially about economics. Richards arranged many private dinners for Hart. Hart's personal background. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A political reminiscence, 1936-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1936-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-04-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The generosity of Premier John Hart as revealed in anecdotes. The civil service role of political secretaries. Anecdotes about protocol. Royal visits, 1951 and 1939. More on protocol. Pattullo government and the Rowell-Sirois Commission. Role of G. Neil Perry as a financial advisor. TRACK 2: Story about political relations between John Hart and W.L.M. King. Antagonism of the federal Liberals to the Coalition government. Duff Pattullo, John Hart and the 1940 federal-provincial conference. Hart cautious in his dealings with the press. Contrasts between Pattullo and Hart. The 1941 provincial election and the formation of the Coalition. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The Coalition government, 1941-1952 PERIOD COVERED: 1941-1952 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-04-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Continuation of the discussion of the formation of the Coalition government, November and December 1941. Problems of Coalition government. Details about compromise within the Coalition. More about the formation of the Coalition, 1941. Pattullo in the period, 1941-45. Incident in which Anscomb criticizes Doug Turnbull, Minister of Health, in the 1951 budget speech. Richards contends that this should have been the end of the Coalition. The break-up of the Coalition, January 1952. Hospital Insurance problems for the Coalition. Hart offers Anscomb the opportunity of making W.A.C. Bennett a cabinet minister, ca. 1945. TRACK 2: More on the 1951 budget speech incident. Comments on Boss Johnson as a political leader. Highways and public works used as a political tool. Ernest Carson as Minister of Public Works. The Coalition against the "patronage" system. CALL NUMBER: T1203:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Anecdotes about British Columbia politics in the 1920s and 1930s PERIOD COVERED: 1933-1947 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1977-05-05 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of Premier T.D. Pattullo. Comments on Pattullo's secretary/assistant, Ben Hethey. Richards becomes John Hart's personal secretary, 1936. The press and press gallery reporters in the 1920s and 1930s. Bruce Hutchison. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview]

Arthur F. Priestley interview : [Reimer, 1976]

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Nass River Valley, 1907-1930 PERIOD COVERED: 1905-1930 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1976 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Arthur F. Priestley was born in 1887 in England. Immigrated to Canada in 1905. Experiences as a recent immigrant to Canada, 1905-1907. Rural work in Alberta. Settled in the Nass River valley, near Aiyansh, in 1907. Description of Rev. J.B. McCullagh, Anglican missionary of Aiyansh. Homesteading experiences. Travelling by freight canoe on the Nass River. TRACK 2: More on Rev. J.B. McCullagh and his missionary work with the Nisga'a Indians. Description of house fire, 1909. Start of homesteading in 1912 and 1913. Priestley opens a store on the Nass River new Aiyansh. Problems of homesteading. Food supply. Mail. Early settlers in the Nass Valley. Most homesteaders defeated by about 1918. Marries McCullagh's daughter in 1910, and sells out in 1930.;

Doris Collison interview

CALL NUMBER: T1249:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Thomas Dufferin Pattullo : A Daughter's Reminiscence (part 1) PERIOD COVERED: 1873-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The early life of Mrs. Collison's father, Thomas Dufferin Pattullo. Pattullo in Dawson City, Yukon, c. 1897-1908. Pattullo family in Prince Rupert, 1908-1916. Pattullo as a family man. Pattullo family life. Religion in the Pattullo family. Social life as a cabinet minister's family. Pressures on Pattullo's wife. Political associates of Pattullo. Relations between Pattullo and Hart. Mrs. Collison's education. More on social life in Victoria. TRACK 2: The Pattullo's social life continued. Family strains caused by a political career. Pattullo's temperament. Pattullo disappointed at not being made a Senator. Relationship between Pattullo and Mackenzie King. Pattullo was the "first flying Premier". Relationship between Pattullo and G.G. McGeer. Comments about various cabinet ministers. Relationship between Pattullo and his brother George. Pattullo a fastidious dresser. Differences between Pattullo and his brother George. Pattullo had a "fetish" about proper pronunciation. Pattullo: "not an easy speaker". Pattullo enjoyed campaigning. Description of various election nights. Details about the 1941 Liberal convention. CALL NUMBER: T1249:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Thomas Dufferin Pattullo : A Daughter's Reminiscence (part 2) PERIOD COVERED: 1933-1956 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Effects of the 1930s Depression on Pattullo's policies. Pattullo an admirer of President F.D. Roosevelt. Pattullo had no hobbies. Pattullo's retirement. Pattullo asks W.A.C. Bennett to join Liberals about 1941. Pattullo admired Sir Richard McBride. Pattullo a strong family man. Pattullo only overseas once, in 1913. More on Pattullo's character. Pattullo gave complete freedom to his family. Pattullo's temper. Pattullo's firmness and punctuality. Pattullo's good relations with his personal staff. [TRACK 2: blank; end of interview.]

Gordon Torey interview

CALL NUMBER: T1293:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part one) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1952 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The formation of the first Social Credit study group in British Columbia, c. 1930. The central roles of Henry Torey and William Tutte in the early history of Social Credit. Differences between the stories of Torey and Peer Paynter. The issue of direct political action. Attempt by William Aberhart to establish a separate organization in B.C. Anti-Semitism as a problem in the Social Credit ;organization. Competing Social Credit groups in the 1930s and 1940s. Torey has no knowledge of the "Perfect Circle". Torey a frequent financial contributor. Close friend of William Rose. Torey born in 1907 in Vancouver. Discusses personal background. TRACK 2: More information about Torey's personal background. Strong influence of his brother Henry. Torey disputes Martin Robin's version of the founding of Social Credit. Description of Henry Torey, William Rose, William Tutte. The Social Credit monetary theory of Major C.H. Douglas. Antithesis of Social Credit and socialism. The political and social philosophy of Social Credit. Rejection of socialism in the 1930s. CALL NUMBER: T1293:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part two) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1970 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-04-26 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Comments on Major C.H. Douglas' political philosophy. Some British Israelites in Social Credit movement. Attempts by Social Credit to influence established parties. Private enterprises a fundamental principle of Social Credit. Social Credit against monopolies. Internal organization. Small "bull sessions" of Social Credit inner circles. Social Credit technical advisors. Examples of how the patronage system worked in B.C. The study and teaching of Social Credit. TRACK 2: Make up of the early Social Credit group. The "lunatic fringe" of Social Credit: Socialists and anti-Semites. Social Credit critique of traditional economics. Henry Torey and William Rose as leaders in Social Credit thought in B.C. Discussion of the Social Credit dividend. Social Credit and the "no growth" economy.; CALL NUMBER: T1293:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The origins of Social Credit in British Columbia, 1930-1952 (part three) PERIOD COVERED: 1930-1972 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: The visit to British Columbia by Major C.H. Douglas. Many of the early Socreds in the newspaper business and related activities. Peer Paynter and the Social Credit organization. More on Henry Torey. The "Christian" image of the Social Credit League. Torey attended no conventions. Alberta connections. Torey took a low profile because he was in the liquor business. Did not know W.A.C. Bennett personally. Assesses Bennett as the best Premier that the province ever had. Comments on earlier B.C. governments. Recollection of 1952 election night. Comments on the bringing into cabinet of Robert Bonner and Einar Gunderson. Knows nothing about Free Enterprise Education Fund. TRACK 2: Comments on the relationship between the government and the party. Comments on the takeover of the B.C. Electric Company, 1961. Torey a friend of Eric Martin. The split in the federal Social Credit party in the 1960s. Ambivalent comments on Real Caouette. Expresses discouragement at the chances of Social Credit in the federal field. The Social Credit Research Team Bulletin of Bill Rose. Expresses belief in the inevitability of Social Credit ideas. Social Credit seen as a remedy to socialism. Critique of socialism. (End of interview)

Thomas S. Barnett interview

CALL NUMBER: T1360:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Childhood and Youth in Alberta and British Columbia : 1909-1928 PERIOD COVERED: 1909-1928 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Born in 1909 in Red Deer, Alberta. Family background. The Barnett family in Alberta. Barnett family move to Vancouver, 1918. Barnett's education. TRACK 2: Eyewitnesses description of the return of Canadian troops to Vancouver. Growing up in Genoa Bay, Vancouver Island. Politics in the Barnett family. Barnett's uncle Alfred Speakman an MP. Barnett completed high school in 1925. Mother sick in the Provincial Hospital at Marpole/Oakridge. Worked in sawmills, 1925-26. Barnett spent one year in California, 1926-27. Entered UBC, 1927. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A young man's experiences in B.C. : 1925-1942 PERIOD COVERED: 1925-1942 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Barnett as a student at UBC after 1927. The strong influence of Barnett's mother. Also influenced by his high school teacher, Arnold Webster. Met J.S. Woodsworth in 1929 and favourably impressed. Barnett considers entering the ministry, c. 1931. Barnett to the Cariboo as a lay minister, 1933. Effects of the Depression on the Cariboo. Barnett decides against the ministry. Activities of the Student Christian Movement at UBC. TRACK 2: The intellectual climate of Vancouver and UBC in the 1930s. Barnett not a member of any party in the 1930s. Barnett in the Central Interior, 1933-42. Barnett attracted to the Social Credit movement in the 1930s. Barnett a supporter but not a member of the C.C.F. in the 1930s. Friend of C.C.F. MLA John McInnis. Editor of the Wells Chronicle during the 1930s. Barnett moves to Port Alberni in 1942. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): The I.W.A. in the 1940s PERIOD COVERED: 1932-1953 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Barnett's observations on B.C. politics in the 1930s. Personal impressions of T. "Duff" Pattullo. Barnett a school trustee in Wells, c. 1937-1940. The educational system in Wells in the late 1930s. More about the Liberal government of Pattullo. Moved to Port Alberni in 1942. Joined C.C.F., 1943. Joined I.W.A. and became active in the union. Also on the executive of Credit Union and consumer co-op. TRACK 2: Barnett's work history, 1942-53. Barnett's opposition to the communist control of the Port Alberni local and the B.C. region of the I.W.A. The "cell" operation of the Communist Party. Barnett instrumental in the formation of an anti-communist "counter-caucus" within the Port Alberni local. Barnett tried and acquitted within the union as a union disrupter, 1945. Barnett a candidate in the 1945 federal and provincial elections. More on the communist / non-communist struggle within the Port Alberni local. Barnett's fundamental opposition to "monolithic" communism. Critique of the Communist Party of Canada by Malcolm Bruce. The defeat of the communists in the I.W.A., 1948. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Federal politics in the 1940s and 1950s PERIOD COVERED: 1942-1957 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Communist leaders in Port Alberni: Alfred Dewhurst, Mark Mosher, Nigel Morgan. Communists not successful in infiltrating the C.C.F. in Port Alberni. Relations between the C.C.F. and the Communist Party. Most Scandinavians were social democrats. The 1945 federal election. A.W. Neill, the former member for Comox-Alberni. More on the 1945 federal election. Did not run in 1949. The Japanese-Canadians as an issue in the 1945 election. TRACK 2: More on Japanese-Canadians. The federal election of 1953: Barnett elected for the first time. Election night, 1953. Took leave of absence from his job at Tahsis Company immediately after election. Barnett's personal financial situation, 1953. Salaries of MPs. Barnett's first trip to Ottawa, 1953. Initial impressions of Ottawa. Getting used to Ottawa. CALL NUMBER: T1360:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): (untitled) PERIOD COVERED: 1953-[no date] RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Living arrangements in Ottawa: The Coburg Street Caucus. Introduction to the House of Commons. Parliamentary openings described. Throne Speech debate described. Barnett's maiden address. Parliamentary decorum in the 1950s. The issue of the recognition of the People's Republic of China. The Quebec "Independents". Barnett's seat in the House of Commons. The "lobbies" of the House of Commons. Informal co-operation between the parties. The development of "question period". TRACK 2: [blank?] (End of interview.)

J.F.K. English interview

CALL NUMBER: T1364:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A career in B.C.'s educational system (part one) PERIOD COVERED: 1925-1939 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-10-03 SUMMARY: This tape begins with Dr. English's early years as a student, then his early career in education as a teacher and principal. Discusses Putnam-Weir Report. Effect of Depression on education. CALL NUMBER: T1364:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A career in B.C.'s educational system (part two) PERIOD COVERED: 1935-1945 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-10-03 SUMMARY: Dr. English describes changes in education in the 1930s, and his experiences as a school inspector in the Peace River school district. CALL NUMBER: T1364:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A career in B.C.'s educational system (part three) PERIOD COVERED: 1943-1962 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-10-03 SUMMARY: Dr. English discusses his experiences as an inspector in Trail-Rossland district, and the differences between this district and the Trail school board. Talks about the problem of Doukhobors' refusal to send their children to school. Implementation of Cameron Report in the Greater Victoria area. CALL NUMBER: T1364:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A career in B.C.'s educational system (part four) PERIOD COVERED: 1946-1963 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-10-03 SUMMARY: Discussion of advantages and disadvantages of re-organization according to the Cameron Report. Discussion of changes in organization of the Department of Education, and changing responsibilities of officials. Policy decision under Social Credit government. Curriculum revision. The Chant Report. CALL NUMBER: T1364:0005 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): A career in B.C.'s educational system (part five) PERIOD COVERED: 1945-1965 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-10-03 SUMMARY: Career as Deputy Minister of Education: discussion of implementation of Chant Report, of contribution of Ministers of Education, of changes in organization of Department of Education. Observations on the Legislature. General comments about trends in education and the preparation of annual reports. (End of interview)

Percival Edward George interview

CALL NUMBER: T1365:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Public career : part 1 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1974-10-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Narration of childhood experiences in London and family background. Immigration to Canada. Farm boy in Ontario. TRACK 2: Brick-laying and real estate speculations in Vancouver. Store business. Marriage and decision to move to Victoria. Attractions of Victoria. CALL NUMBER: T1365:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Public career : part 2 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1974-10-08 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Getting established in Victoria. Activities in 2nd Depot Battalion during World War I. Setting up gramophone manufacturing. Starting music store. Raising a large family. Business adjustments, radio, gramophone repair. Terminating business in 1947. TRACK 2: Involvement in Quadra PTA. Educational concerns. Running for Victoria School Board 1926-1930. Difficulties getting elected and reasons for success. School board concerns during Depression. CALL NUMBER: T1365:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Public career : part 3 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1974-10-15 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discusses electoral success in 1930s. Involvement and activities with Victoria Junior Chamber of Commerce. Involvement in Reconstruction Party and Major Douglas's Social Credit. Political activities. Decision to run for alderman in 1940. Issues in 1940s. TRACK 2: Fiscal policy 1940s. Municipal politics 1940s. Policies as mayor. Post-war needs of Victoria. Changes due to war. Opinion of best qualities of a mayor. CALL NUMBER: T1365:0004 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Public career : part 4 RECORDED: Victoria (B.C.), 1974-12-17 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discussion of the role and duties of the Mayor of Victoria. Becomes president of Canadian Federation of Mayors. Runs as Coalition candidate in Esquimalt by-election 1951, discussion of results. Becomes chairman of Public Utilities Commission, description of responsibilities. Water supply issue. B.C. Electric. Bus fare issue. TRACK 2: Becomes commissioner on P.U.C. Government attitude to P.U.C. PNR issue of 1960. The public, and need for better communication of P.U.C. role. Career in retrospect. Philosophy. (End of interview)

Hugh Morrison interview

CALL NUMBER: T1366:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Civil Service Commissioner 1945-1969 (part 1) RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family background and education. Career as teacher and school inspector. Appointment as Chief Personnel Officer. Early history of Civil Service. Reorganization Report 1945. Installing system. TRACK 2: Post-war employment situation. Cost of living bonus. Streamlining. Changing role of Commission. Coalition government and CSC. B.C. Government Employees Association and CSC. Salary settlements. CALL NUMBER: T1366:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Civil Service Commissioner 1945-1969 (part 2) RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Coalition government and collective bargaining. Advent of Social Credit and CSC. Social Credit and staffing. Grievance procedures. In-service training. Employees Safety Program. TRACK 2: Dismissal of Dave Barrett. New Provincial Secretary Wesley Black. New Government and CSC. Carrothers Report. Government opposition to collective bargaining. Ferry workers "strike". CALL NUMBER: T1366:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Civil Service Commissioner 1945-1969 (part 3) RECORDED: [location unknown], 1974-11-14 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Collective bargaining issue. Salary discussions. 1972 Civil Service Report. Collective bargaining and paternalistic system. NDP government and British versus American civil service system. Retrospect. (End of interview)

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