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Carl Clark interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Carl Clark RECORDED: [location unknown], 1986-02-03 SUMMARY: Carl Clark was born on February 12, 1912 in Saskatchewan. Became a mechanic for Winnipeg Aero Club in 1930. Joined Starratt Airways during Depression (1935). Went to Trans-Canada Airlines, 1938, and s;tayed with TCA and Air Canada until retirement. TRACK 1: Describes Winnipeg Aero Club in 1930. Effects of Depression. The Starratt Airways operation and early days of Trans-Canada Airlines. TRACK 2: ;Describes the transition to turbine equipment. The effect of war on airports. [Note: Mr. Clark was very ill at the time of the interview; had to use medication to maintain free breathing. Occasional u;se of puffer can be heard during interview.];

Earl Gerow interview

CALL NUMBER: T4210:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : R. Earl Gerow RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-04 SUMMARY: R. Earl Gerow was an early aircraft maintenance engineer who worked for Canadian Airways and Trans-Canada Airlines. TRACK 1: He describes the early flying activities at Burns Lake and his entry into aviation business as a mechanic. Bush flying activities of Canadian Airways 1930-36. The Paddy Burke search in 1930 and other significant aviation incidents. TRACK 2: Further descriptions of early bush flying operations around Burns Lake area with references to other operators. Transfers to Trans-Canada Airlines upon its formation and gains A.M.E. licence. Describes the changes from bush operations to airline and the development of Trans-Canada Airlines from 1938 onward. Air Canada today from the operations point of view.

CALL NUMBER: T4210:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : R. Earl Gerow RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-04 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Description of early airline service between Vancouver and Seattle. Description of accidents and incidents at Vancouver airport. TRACK 2: Blank.

Gilmour W. McLaren interview

CALL NUMBER: T4265:0077 - 0078 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Gilmour W. McLaren RECORDED: [location unknown], 1985-05-14 SUMMARY: Began flying in late 1920s with Great Western Airways, Calgary. Worked for Chinook Flight Service, Fort McMurray, MacKenzie Air Services, 1936-39, Trans-Canada Airlines and stayed with TCA/Air Canada ;until retiring in 1968. [No further documentation about these tapes.];

CALL NUMBER: T4265:0079 - 0081 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Gilmour W. McLaren RECORDED: [location unknown], 1985-07-07 SUMMARY: [No content summaries available for these tapes.];

Joe Bertalino interview : [Stoddart, 1978]

CALL NUMBER: T3214:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Joe Bertalino discusses: background; how he got interested and involved in aviation; Lulu Island experience; doing both flying and mechanical work at this time; started a flying school in Kamloops; barnstorming; training procedure when he was learning to fly; out at the new airport in Vancouver in the '30s; United Air [Transport?] job, 1934-39; switched to Air Canada (i.e., Trans-Canada Airlines) at outbreak of war; joined Air Force -- organized flying schools; time in the Army; Abbotsford airport, job as inspector in 1947 until retirement, 28 years later. Discusses his work with flying schools, especially the training students received during the war. Flying up the coast before WW I. Procedures in case of an accident. Accidents. Dobbin brothers -- Dominion Airways. TRACK 2: Joe Bertalino: the Dobbin brothers (cont'd); the Travelaire; Dominion Airways -- what happened to staff when it folded; gliding; social life in the airline business; difficulties in the Depression -- hard to convince government to spend money on aviation, but no active opposition; Hal Wilson and his flying of the tri-motor (based in Victoria); his first flight; why he got involved in aviation -- the excitement; adventures in flying in the bush; anecdote about getting lost; pilot-mechanic partnership on flights; wooden props -- took awhile to ship; no radios in planes until 1934 in Canada. CALL NUMBER: T3214:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Joe Bertalino discusses: beginning to use radios in airplanes; advent of night flying; large aircraft first came in early to mid 1930s; icing problems when he was flying -- worst was with the Beechcraft traveling up the coast; first jets in B.C. -- the De Havilland Comet, Douglas DC-8; relationship between TCA and CPA in the early days; the 'Flying Seven' -- a group of seven women who got their aviation licenses. [TRACK 2: blank.] CALL NUMBER: T3214:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], [1978?] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: A continuation of Paul Stoddart's interview with BC aviation pioneer Joe Bertalino. Mr. Bertalino recalls his experiences barnstorming in the B.C. interior in a Fleet biplane with Humphrey Madden in the 1930s; the beginning of his involvement in aviation; navigating by following roads and powerlines; taking people up for short airplane rides; visit to Douglas Lake Ranch; Grant McConachie's early freight service into the north; etc. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Joe Bertalino interview : [Swartz, 1985]

CALL NUMBER: T4210:0007 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Joe Bertalino RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-11 SUMMARY: Joe Bertalino was an early aircraft maintenance engineer, the first Vancouver employee of United Airlines. Served on the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. Maintenance Chief at Abbotsford. Joined Department of Transport as Airworthiness Inspector post WWII. TRACK 1: Meeting Lindbergh at Spokane airport in 1927 and starting an aviation career. Moving to Vancouver and working for Dominion Airways. Barnstorming around Kamloops with Humphrey "Hump" Madden in 1931. Working at Vancouver airport in the early 1930s. The "cent-a-pound" days. Gliding activities at Vancouver airport. United Airlines; commences airline service to Vancouver. Working for United then Trans-Canada Airlines. TRACK 2: Starting up the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. Activities at Vancouver, Victoria, Boundary Bay, Caron, and Abbotsford. Working for the Department of Transport, post war. Inspection of homebuilt aircraft. Accidents on the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. Reminiscences of the Boeing flying boats. CALL NUMBER: T4210:0008 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Joe Bertalino RECORDED: Vancouver (B.C.), 1985-03-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Joe Bertalino began flying and ground school with Dominion Airways at Lulu Island. Bill Templeton spurs on airport development. Background on Dobbins and Dominion Airways. Four Dobbin Brothers. Helped assemble Gypsy Moths. Loss of seaplane. After Vancouver put up hangar, transition from Lulu Island to Sea Island. Life at Lulu Island (Lansdowne) airport. Competition. Accident with Stinson. Flying training and night school. Evolution of Aero Club of British Columbia. Original hangar use and buyout. TRACK 2: Temporary hangar at Lansdowne, changing aircraft from wheels to floats. Offices in hangar. 1931 Air Tour. 1930 Air Tour. First autogyro at Vancouver. Rosco Turner's record flights. Other record flights from Vancouver. References to post war Ministry of Transport Inspectors.

Maurice McGregor interview : [Stoddart, 1978]

CALL NUMBER: T3222:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor discusses: his background- born in Victoria in 1911, attracted to the romance of flying after the Lindbergh flight; learned to fly from friend Hal Wilson- description of his first day of flight school; getting his private license, then his commercial; 1930- barnstorming out of Ladner, Roscoe Turner story, aerobatics; establishing his own flying school in Vancouver, but never really succeeding with that; operating a flying school in Victoria at Gordon Head; training Chinese pilots at this time- got to know the Chinese community, so he was asked to go to China to teach flying, but could not go because he was accepted by the R.C.A.F. for a navigation course; Prime Minister Bennett cut back on money for aviation, many people laid off; desire of many non-permanent R.C.A.F. men to go to China. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: China offered new opportunities for young pilots, ones that were not available in Canada -- but government in Canada would not allow pilots to go; government's cancellation of mail contracts; first air shows- Lulu Island in 1930, Trans Canada Air Pageant; worked briefly for Airland Manufacturing Company; Paddy Burke crash- he almost went on that flight; Ernest Eve- started the Ford Tri-motor operation, McGregor's father also involved in this company; became an officer in the 111 AC Squadron, R.C.A.F. non-permanent in Vancouver- involved doing tactical exercises, instrument flying, aerobatics; search-and-rescue missions; maps were very poor when he first started; many forced landings; surviving in plane crashes- needed to be tough; flying up the coast in the early '30s; fishery patrol. CALL NUMBER: T3222:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor: anecdote at McKay Lake- mechanical difficulties, tricky maneuvering; engine problems a few times- adventures connected to these experiences; getting involved in hauling fish from the north- experience with a snowstorm while bringing fish down to Kenora, competition between companies involved in this business, story about snarling huskies in a search-and-rescue; came back to the coast to open a base at Burns Lake- difficult days in the Depression; flying in dangerous weather conditions; anecdote about falling 30 feet out of a plane during a near fatal landing. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: more on story about the landing in which he and his passengers fell into the water; growth of Canadian Airways; making the transition from being a bush pilot to a commercial pilot; working for TCA after it took over Canadian Airways; he flew the Vancouver-Seattle route for TCA; moving to Winnipeg to deliver mail; became captain on the first official night airmail service on the Vancouver-Winnipeg route; trained by Americans for awhile; became supervisor of area between Winnipeg and Vancouver; outbreak of war- his role in training pilots, selecting radio range sites; then moved east, supervised various other regions during war. CALL NUMBER: T3222:0003 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Early aviation : Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Maurice McGregor: more on the growth of TCA- expansion of passenger flights; anecdote about flying Senator Gray Turgeon in 1935; expanding TCA service to all over the world; getting lost in Brazil right after the war; expanding to the Caribbean in 1948; after being with TCA for 15 years, he joined Canadian Pacific as director of development- first task was to negotiate agreements with foreign countries so CP could fly to these places; CP could not survive on travel to the Orient alone; going over to Pakistan to help them establish a first class airline- difficult, but interesting experience. TRACK 2: Maurice McGregor: more on his experiences in Pakistan and setting up an airline in this country; going back to B.C. and establishing his own company that concentrated on flying up the coast; selling his line to Northwest Industries; favourite planes he flew; impressions of CP Air, Air Canada; final thoughts about aviation history in B.C.. (End of interview)

Maurice McGregor interview : [Swartz, 1985]

CALL NUMBER: T4265:0070 - 0072 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : F. Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1985-07-09 SUMMARY: F. Maurice McGregor was born in 1911 in Victoria. Learned to fly in 1928 in Victoria. Barnstormed in early 1930s. Worked for B.C. Airways, 1929. Flew Boeing flying boats for Canadian Airways. One of f;irst pilots for Trans-Canada Airlines. Set up Pakistan International Airways. Purchased B.C. Airlines in 1950s and later sold to PWA. [No further documentation for these tapes.];

CALL NUMBER: T4265:0073 - 0075 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : F. Maurice McGregor RECORDED: [location unknown], 1985-07-12 SUMMARY: [No content summaries available for these tapes.];

No barriers : [out-takes]

Out-takes. The geographical barriers that once hindered progress in Canada, and the surmounting of those barriers by air travel. Filmed all across Canada (including Charlottetown, Montreal, Toronto and Uranium City), with staged sequences on the Confederation conference, pioneer farming and the building of the CPR through the Rockies. According to Parry, the BC scenes are relatively "anonymous." The outs include aerial views of mountains; aircraft on tarmac and airport terminal scenes (Malton Airport, Toronto); Britannia Mines concentrator; construction & earthmoving at Bridge River and/or Kemano; herring fishing; hydro-electric installations; logging; Ottawa; Quebec City; TCA aircraft; Uranium City, Saskatchewan (airfield, town, Eldorado Mining operations); Vancouver harbour; Yellowknife.

R. Earl Gerow interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], 1978 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Earl Gerow discusses: his background- born in Saskatchewan in 1913, introduced to aviation in 1930; learned to service a plane, got a job as an apprentice at Burns Lake; logistics of the 'food drop'; Canadian Airways pulled out of Burns Lake, he lost his job; then hired on with Pacific Airways to pick up miners; education in the aviation industry; hired on to Trans Canada Airlines (Air Canada) in 1938 and stayed there until his retirement in 1977; the McAlpine expedition; description of weather, environment, living conditions of Burns Lake; seeing his first plane; never got his pilot's license; equipment used at Burns Lake; United Air Transport; numerous small airlines in the north at the time. TRACK 2: Mr. Gerow discusses: the differences in dealing with bush planes and dealing with regular airline planes; first memories of working for TCA in Winnipeg; more on logistics of Burns Lake operation, and Burns Lake itself; black flies and mosquitoes; bush schedule was tough, but more flexible than regular airline employee schedule; period when TCA carried mostly cargo and few passengers; effects of war on airline -- some pilots to the air force; beginning of TCA -- difficulties, challenges. (End of interview)

Report on air transportation

SUMMARY: Report by Jim Osborne (?) and comments by William Templeton, Pacific Airport Manager, Walter Rowen (?), Station Manager for Trans-Canada Airways, and T.H. Finnie (?), Manager of British Columbia Aero Club, about: Pacific Airport, Trans-Canada Airways, planned flights and increased passenger traffic.

TCA flashes

SUMMARY: SIDE 1: Ads for Trans Canada Airlines -- 22 cuts. [SIDE 2: blank.];

Vancouver Island : British Columbia's island playground : 1956-1957 version

The item is a composite print of a travelogue made in 1956-1957. It is a revised version of the film and incorporates footage from the 1941-1942 and 1951 versions, as well as new footage. New footage includes cars coming off the ferry in Victoria's inner harbour; dockside scenes, including a freighter loading; a Trans-Canada Airlines aircraft arriving at Patricia Bay airport; Malahat Summit scenery; marina and fishing scenes; downtown Duncan and local logging operations; the John Hart hydro-electric plant; etc.

Wayne Van Horne interview

SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Pioneer Profiles project : Wayne Van Horne RECORDED: [location unknown], 1985-07-22 SUMMARY: Wayne Van Horne was an aircraft maintenance engineer. Started with Canadian Airways in 1937 (became CP Airways in 1942). Worked for Trans-Canada Airlines on North Star project. Joined Queen Charlotte ;Airways and then Pacific Western Airlines. [No content summaries are available for these tapes.];