Item AAAB4367 - Mary Englund interview

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Mary Englund interview

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  • 1980-07-31 [date recorded] (Creation)

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Interviews recorded as research for Sound Heritage Series no. 34, "Now You Are My Brother: Missionaries in British Columbia".

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CALL NUMBER: T3868:0001 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Missionary in B.C. : Mary Englund RECORDED: [location unknown], 1980-07-31 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Englund's recollections of her education at the Mission Indian Residential School: born in Lillooet, raised at Bralorne and D'Arcy Native reserves; taken to the Mission Indian Residentia;l School at age 8, stayed until she was 16; hard family life -- French-Canadian father killed, Native mother drank; she enjoyed her trip down to Mission because she was not sad to leave her mother; ar;rival at school -- bathed by an older girl, putting on an uncomfortable uniform; being homesick; older girls watched the younger ones; difficult to get used to rules of the school; description of a ty;pical day; chores; Catechism; learning to sew. TRACK 2: Mary Englund further discusses her memories of the residential school in Mission: anecdote about darning a sock; learning English -- very diffi;cult for some children; nuns told girls they were lucky to be in a convent because the outside world was wicked; rebellious girls -- running away, punishments; children were told not to tell parents a;nything about school -- parents could not visit often; the grade system ('notes'); Sister Veronica; sisters made them feel ashamed to be Native; asserting herself against the ways of the school; becom;ing a rebel.; CALL NUMBER: T3868:0002 SUPPLIED TITLE OF TAPE(S): Missionary in B.C. : Mary Englund RECORDED: [location unknown], 1980-07-31 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mary Englund discusses her time at the Mission Residential School: some nuns showed affection; wearing veils in church; contact between girls and boys was forbidden; anecdote about dressing a; girl up like a boy to annoy a sister; story about some boys climbing into the girls' dormitory at night; describes the journey home for the holidays; at home, she sometimes missed companionship of th;e school; went as high as she could academically, Native girls were not allowed to go to high school; working as a maid for an old Scottish lady in Ladner; wanted to be a nun, but was not allowed beca;use her parents were not married. (End of interview);

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Margaret Whitehead, 1979-1981


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A digital copy is available.

  • Partial transcript on file.
  • Reference cassette copy available in container 000443-239.

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  • Copying Restriction: None.
  • Use Restriction: For private and educational use only. Not for broadcast or commercial use without permission of the B.C. Archives.
  • Copyright Status: Copyright British Columbia Archives.

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Excerpts from this interview appeared in Sound Heritage Series no. 34, "Now You Are My Brother".

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Accession number(s): T3868

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speaker: Mary Englund, interviewer: Margaret Mary Whitehead

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